[kictanet] Gov't threatens to shut media houses announcing election results - Citizentv.co.ke

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That's an interesting play of words... so let me demonstrate..

Candidate X - 2,100, 000
Candidate Y - 2,500, 000

Is that not announcing the winner? Or is declaring candidate Y the winner the offense here?  

Surely...why are we dealing in Oxymorons? 

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> On 31 Jul 2017, at 6:43 PM, Wamathai (HapaKenya) via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> My understanding on this matter, after an explanation from IEBC, is that media houses are free to share results as long as they don't announce a winner. That is the sole purview of the IEBC.
> 
> The CS and IEBC should clarify ASAP to avoid confusion. 
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>>> Dorcas
>>> 
>>> You are being disingenuous. No media house in this country has ever purported to carry official results. However media houses can and should announce the results from different polling stations and constituencies. Often times the lack of information is what causes unnecessary pressure and concern. By the way it instructive to note that IEBC will put results on its portal and I understand that they actually provide APIs?
>>> 
>>> I think what you mean to say is that the media should act responsibly? Any Kenyan with a social media account, access to media can tally make their own tallies.
>>> 
>>> I'm curious why this major concern about media houses announcing results? What are we missing here?  There is just too much pressure and focus to curb flow of information. This is a democracy. Let us remember that. And our constitution is clear and explicit on access to information. Let us leave KANU tactics where they belong. In the past.
>>> 
>>> Unless of course the CS was misquoted or taken out of context? #JustAsking..
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>>> > On 29 Jul 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>>> > The media must act very responsibly. On this one, I will support the CS. Everyone may tally but a media house cannot purport to have the official record.  Only IEBC has the mandate.
>>> >
>>> >> On Jul 29, 2017 4:13 PM, "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>> >> This doesn't sound right. Two steps forwad one back.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
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>>> >>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>>> Ali,
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>>> I think you know in 2008 a certain media attempt to be first caused lots of
>>> problems.  I can assure I would like the CS to act very tough this time.
>>> 
>>> The onus is on the media houses and bloggers to abind responsibly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2017 7:22 PM, "Ali Hussein" <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Dorcas
>>> >
>>> > You are being disingenuous. No media house in this country has ever
>>> > purported to carry official results. However media houses can and should
>>> > announce the results from different polling stations and constituencies.
>>> > Often times the lack of information is what causes unnecessary pressure and
>>> > concern. By the way it instructive to note that IEBC will put results on
>>> > its portal and I understand that they actually provide APIs?
>>> >
>>> > I think what you mean to say is that the media should act responsibly? Any
>>> > Kenyan with a social media account, access to media can tally make their
>>> > own tallies.
>>> >
>>> > I'm curious why this major concern about media houses announcing results?
>>> > What are we missing here?  There is just too much pressure and focus to
>>> > curb flow of information. This is a democracy. Let us remember that. And
>>> > our constitution is clear and explicit on access to information. Let us
>>> > leave KANU tactics where they belong. In the past.
>>> >
>>> > Unless of course the CS was misquoted or taken out of context?
>>> > #JustAsking..
>>> >
>>> > *Ali Hussein*
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>>> > On 29 Jul 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <
>>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > The media must act very responsibly. On this one, I will support the CS.
>>> > Everyone may tally but a media house cannot purport to have the official
>>> > record.  Only IEBC has the mandate.
>>> >
>>> > On Jul 29, 2017 4:13 PM, "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <
>>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> This doesn't sound right. Two steps forwad one back.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
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>>> >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <
>>> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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