<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>That's an interesting play of words... so let me demonstrate..</div><div><br></div><div>Candidate X - 2,100, 000</div><div>Candidate Y - 2,500, 000</div><div><br></div><div>Is that not announcing the winner? Or is declaring candidate Y the winner the offense here? </div><div><br></div><div>Surely...why are we dealing in Oxymorons? <br><br><div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: none;"></span></a></span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"></p><font><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com/" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a></span><br></font></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><br>On 31 Jul 2017, at 6:43 PM, Wamathai (HapaKenya) via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div class="gmail_default">My understanding on this matter, after an explanation from IEBC, is that media houses are free to share results as long as they don't announce a winner. That is the sole purview of the IEBC.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">The CS and IEBC should clarify ASAP to avoid confusion. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_-8332577031317670609gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 July 2017 at 19:32, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet-request@lists.<wbr>kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send kictanet mailing list submissions to<br>
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2. Re: Gov't threatens to shut media houses announcing election<br>
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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:22:50 +0300<br>
From: Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Gov't threatens to shut media houses<br>
announcing election results - <a href="http://Citizentv.co.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Citizentv.co.ke</a><br>
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Dorcas<br>
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You are being disingenuous. No media house in this country has ever purported to carry official results. However media houses can and should announce the results from different polling stations and constituencies. Often times the lack of information is what causes unnecessary pressure and concern. By the way it instructive to note that IEBC will put results on its portal and I understand that they actually provide APIs?<br>
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I think what you mean to say is that the media should act responsibly? Any Kenyan with a social media account, access to media can tally make their own tallies.<br>
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I'm curious why this major concern about media houses announcing results? What are we missing here? There is just too much pressure and focus to curb flow of information. This is a democracy. Let us remember that. And our constitution is clear and explicit on access to information. Let us leave KANU tactics where they belong. In the past.<br>
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Unless of course the CS was misquoted or taken out of context? #JustAsking..<br>
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> On 29 Jul 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
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> The media must act very responsibly. On this one, I will support the CS. Everyone may tally but a media house cannot purport to have the official record. Only IEBC has the mandate.<br>
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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:32:02 +0300<br>
From: Dorcas Muthoni <<a href="mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmuthoni@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Gov't threatens to shut media houses<br>
announcing election results - <a href="http://Citizentv.co.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Citizentv.co.ke</a><br>
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Ali,<br>
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I think you know in 2008 a certain media attempt to be first caused lots of<br>
problems. I can assure I would like the CS to act very tough this time.<br>
<br>
The onus is on the media houses and bloggers to abind responsibly.<br>
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On Jul 29, 2017 7:22 PM, "Ali Hussein" <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dorcas<br>
><br>
> You are being disingenuous. No media house in this country has ever<br>
> purported to carry official results. However media houses can and should<br>
> announce the results from different polling stations and constituencies.<br>
> Often times the lack of information is what causes unnecessary pressure and<br>
> concern. By the way it instructive to note that IEBC will put results on<br>
> its portal and I understand that they actually provide APIs?<br>
><br>
> I think what you mean to say is that the media should act responsibly? Any<br>
> Kenyan with a social media account, access to media can tally make their<br>
> own tallies.<br>
><br>
> I'm curious why this major concern about media houses announcing results?<br>
> What are we missing here? There is just too much pressure and focus to<br>
> curb flow of information. This is a democracy. Let us remember that. And<br>
> our constitution is clear and explicit on access to information. Let us<br>
> leave KANU tactics where they belong. In the past.<br>
><br>
> Unless of course the CS was misquoted or taken out of context?<br>
> #JustAsking..<br>
><br>
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> On 29 Jul 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <<br>
> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> The media must act very responsibly. On this one, I will support the CS.<br>
> Everyone may tally but a media house cannot purport to have the official<br>
> record. Only IEBC has the mandate.<br>
><br>
> On Jul 29, 2017 4:13 PM, "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <<br>
> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> This doesn't sound right. Two steps forwad one back.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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