[kictanet] Fwd: STATEMENT ON THE INFORMATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY (ICT) PRACTITIONERS BILL 2016 BY ICTA

[Ephraim Percy Kenyanito]

+1 to Michuki and Kivuva.

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On 8 July 2016 at 12:25, Liz Orembo via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

>
> Who are the members of ICTAK? Has anyone managed to check on their website?
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Tony White via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Another piece of absolute nonsense.  Our ICT sector is too dynamic at
>> present, compared with the other professions cited, which are settled
>> and well established ...and are slow to change.  The ICTAK is in
>> favour of this because it promotes *their* agenda, which is not
>> aligned with the profession as a whole - indeed, I suspect they are
>> behind the bill's creation.
>>
>> Let's hope that CS Mucheru - who has stated that the bill is not
>> ministry or government policy - will push for the rejection of the
>> bill when it comes to a vote in the national assembly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/07/2016, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet
>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> > @Waudo,
>> >
>> > The industry has tackled the bill on multiple fronts. There have been
>> > memoranda from multiple sources to parliament in rejection of the bill
>> in
>> > totality. Distinguished progressive Members of the National Assembly
>> have
>> > also been contacted to fight for the interests of the community, and
>> moreso
>> > the youth. All this effort culminated with the CS of ICT issuing the
>> > statement that went out on Wednesday.
>> >
>> > On that note, and to strengthen the process, it would be great if CSK
>> > approach it's lawyers, and members, and also submits a response to the
>> > Clerk of the National Assembly. Together we are stronger.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > ______________________
>> > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
>> > twitter.com/lordmwesh
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8 July 2016 at 10:37, waudo siganga via kictanet <
>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ali, Koris, Ngigi, and others - I hope we still get some advise from
>> our
>> >> ICT legal minds e.g. Bomu, Muriungi, Sihanhya, etc. in order to have a
>> >> structured way forward Where, for example, and in what format does one
>> >> present objections to the MPs since the bill has already been rushed
>> >> there? Is it too late to stop the MPs from even considering it? How
>> come
>> >> the CS has disowned it and yet it is still moving forward?
>> >>
>> >> W.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet wrote:
>> >> > Ali,
>> >> >
>> >> > It's very clear now where this bill most likely comes from!
>> >> >
>> >> > And any one whose line of thought starts with "...the rate at which
>> >> > technology evolves does not outstrip existing policy and legal
>> >> > frameworks‎..." clearly does *not* understand technology, which
>> always
>> >> > outstrips policy & legal frameworks.
>> >> >
>> >> > If ICTAK wants to regulate it's own members, fine. Let them draft the
>> >> > most draconian and I'll thought regulations they can‎. Just don't
>> >> > impose
>> >> > them onto the rest of us.
>> >> >
>> >> > On another note, the ones with the 'powers'; the name ICTAK uses, is
>> it
>> >> > legal? It seems to give credence to the fact that they represent ICT
>> >> > practitioners in Kenya, which the do not.
>> >> >
>> >> > Waithaka Ngigi
>> >> >
>> >> > Alliance Technologies
>> >> > www.at.co.ke
>> >> >   Original Message
>> >> > From: Ali Hussein via kictanet
>> >> > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 9:09 AM
>> >> > To: Ngigi Waithaka
>> >> > Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> >> > Cc: Ali Hussein
>> >> > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: STATEMENT ON THE INFORMATION COMMUNICATION
>> >> > TECHNOLOGY (ICT) PRACTITIONERS BILL 2016 BY ICTA
>> >> >
>> >> > Listers
>> >> >
>> >> > Please see attached. Clearly we have a fight in our hands. Let's not
>> >> > let
>> >> > up on this.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ali Hussein
>> >> > Principal
>> >> > Hussein & Associates
>> >> > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>> >> >
>> >> > Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >> > Skype: abu-jomo
>> >> > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>> thinking
>> >> > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>> >> >
>> >> > Sent from my iPad
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
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>> ICT
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>> >> >
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>> >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and
>> >> development.
>> >>
>> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
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>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>>
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> Liz.
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> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>
> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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