[kictanet] Fwd: STATEMENT ON THE INFORMATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY (ICT) PRACTITIONERS BILL 2016 BY ICTA

[Liz Orembo]

Who are the members of ICTAK? Has anyone managed to check on their website?

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Tony White via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Another piece of absolute nonsense.  Our ICT sector is too dynamic at
> present, compared with the other professions cited, which are settled
> and well established ...and are slow to change.  The ICTAK is in
> favour of this because it promotes *their* agenda, which is not
> aligned with the profession as a whole - indeed, I suspect they are
> behind the bill's creation.
>
> Let's hope that CS Mucheru - who has stated that the bill is not
> ministry or government policy - will push for the rejection of the
> bill when it comes to a vote in the national assembly.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
>
>
> On 08/07/2016, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> > @Waudo,
> >
> > The industry has tackled the bill on multiple fronts. There have been
> > memoranda from multiple sources to parliament in rejection of the bill in
> > totality. Distinguished progressive Members of the National Assembly have
> > also been contacted to fight for the interests of the community, and
> moreso
> > the youth. All this effort culminated with the CS of ICT issuing the
> > statement that went out on Wednesday.
> >
> > On that note, and to strengthen the process, it would be great if CSK
> > approach it's lawyers, and members, and also submits a response to the
> > Clerk of the National Assembly. Together we are stronger.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > ______________________
> > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
> > twitter.com/lordmwesh
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 July 2016 at 10:37, waudo siganga via kictanet <
> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >
> >> Ali, Koris, Ngigi, and others - I hope we still get some advise from our
> >> ICT legal minds e.g. Bomu, Muriungi, Sihanhya, etc. in order to have a
> >> structured way forward Where, for example, and in what format does one
> >> present objections to the MPs since the bill has already been rushed
> >> there? Is it too late to stop the MPs from even considering it? How come
> >> the CS has disowned it and yet it is still moving forward?
> >>
> >> W.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet wrote:
> >> > Ali,
> >> >
> >> > It's very clear now where this bill most likely comes from!
> >> >
> >> > And any one whose line of thought starts with "...the rate at which
> >> > technology evolves does not outstrip existing policy and legal
> >> > frameworks‎..." clearly does *not* understand technology, which always
> >> > outstrips policy & legal frameworks.
> >> >
> >> > If ICTAK wants to regulate it's own members, fine. Let them draft the
> >> > most draconian and I'll thought regulations they can‎. Just don't
> >> > impose
> >> > them onto the rest of us.
> >> >
> >> > On another note, the ones with the 'powers'; the name ICTAK uses, is
> it
> >> > legal? It seems to give credence to the fact that they represent ICT
> >> > practitioners in Kenya, which the do not.
> >> >
> >> > Waithaka Ngigi
> >> >
> >> > Alliance Technologies
> >> > www.at.co.ke
> >> >   Original Message
> >> > From: Ali Hussein via kictanet
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 9:09 AM
> >> > To: Ngigi Waithaka
> >> > Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> >> > Cc: Ali Hussein
> >> > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: STATEMENT ON THE INFORMATION COMMUNICATION
> >> > TECHNOLOGY (ICT) PRACTITIONERS BILL 2016 BY ICTA
> >> >
> >> > Listers
> >> >
> >> > Please see attached. Clearly we have a fight in our hands. Let's not
> >> > let
> >> > up on this.
> >> >
> >> > Ali Hussein
> >> > Principal
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> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
> >> > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > >
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Best regards.
Liz.

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