[kictanet] Who will buy this Sh1.8m TV?

Mon Nov 26 18:28:14 EAT 2012

agreed phares

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com> wrote:

> Another thing is to raise the salaries of unskilled staff. Benevolent self
> interest. This will allow them to have some form of dignity and raise
> children who can participate in the skilled labour market. This is
> something we can all do, effectively helping alleviate poverty, one step at
> a time.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Warigia Bowman <warigia at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I disagree, the changes must start from the grassroots. Kenyans must
>> start speaking out against inequality. Like the greenbelt movement. A good
>> place to start is bringing salaries of national officials in line.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately I don't think such changes can start from the grassroots.
>>> A leader willing to take the flack and protect his bureaucracy as they
>>> do their jobs. When we allocate responsibility to everyone, we allocate it
>>> it to no-one.
>>> A decisive person that is willing to deal with security, economic and
>>> policy issues with a clear plan with the interest of the citizens as a
>>> priority.
>>> It must start from the top.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:22 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Warigia,
>>>>
>>>> Yes you are the only one who thinks it is shocking that our Ministers
>>>> are paid this much and I am not being derogatory, African politics is about
>>>> poverty and subjugation which is why, except for Peter Kenneth, very few
>>>> politicians who tried to uplift the standard of living of their
>>>> constituents makes it back for a second term.
>>>>
>>>> As you may be aware 5 years is not enough to show a marked change in a
>>>> society and because of our agrarian thinking based on the cycle of the
>>>> maize crop and at times sukuma wiki we tend to expect instant results once
>>>> a new MP has been elected which is not feasible.  This will be better
>>>> brought to the fore with the devolution where societies that have been
>>>> relying on government handouts will realise that moving from a net consumer
>>>> to a net producer takes more than 5 years, which is the reason I will not
>>>> stand for governor (I have resolved myself to buying a degree from an
>>>> online university, maybe even a PhD) during this trial phase.
>>>>
>>>> So as the electorate we prefer to get the 50/- dished out during the
>>>> campaign period than hope for a more permanent solution from the MP, in
>>>> exchange the MP spends Kes. 100 Million during the campaign and spends the
>>>> next 5 years trying to recover from the hole this dug into their pockets by
>>>> regularly increasing their remuneration to keep ahead of inflation.  Our
>>>> MPs have increased their pay from a paltry 7,500/- 30 years ago to the
>>>> current levels all because we, the electorate, have kept raising campaign
>>>> costs by demanding larger and larger pesa pap.
>>>>
>>>> Which explains why there are rarely any dissenting voices in parliament
>>>> as they propose to increase their salaries every other week, as all wear
>>>> the same shoe and they all know where it bites.
>>>>
>>>> Look around at many of our former MP's they are a shadow of their
>>>> former selves, more so those who believed that they where there to serve
>>>> the electorate, the ones who used their time in parliament enriching
>>>> themselves are at times better off.
>>>>
>>>> Please ask the same question to someone whose parent has been involved
>>>> in politics, they will tell you that the amount paid is too little to make
>>>> up for the emotionally and financially damage to the children and spouses.
>>>>
>>>> The system is broken, how do we fix it?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robert Yawe
>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>>> Kenya
>>>>
>>>>  Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>>    ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Warigia Bowman <warigia at gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> *Cc:* "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 November 2012, 20:39
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Who will buy this Sh1.8m TV?
>>>>
>>>> I think that it is actually a crime that our ministers and MPs get paid
>>>> this much.
>>>>
>>>> According to the World Bank, Kenya is a low income country, and 45.9
>>>> percent of the country lives in poverty, and the GNI per capita is $820
>>>> dollars.
>>>>
>>>> That means that this TV is worth almost 20 times (TWENTY TIMES) than
>>>> the average annual pay of the average Mwananchi.
>>>>
>>>> People, am I the only one who thinks it is shocking that our Ministers
>>>> get paid 20 times more than the national average pay for a YEAR in one
>>>> month?
>>>>
>>>> Warigia
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:20 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Samsung on Friday launched a 84" LED 3D monitor worth Kes. 1.8 M which
>>>> is equivalent to a Ministers 1 month pay and a MP's 2 months pay.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Yawe
>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>>> Kenya
>>>>
>>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>>   ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* luke mulunda <lmulunda at yahoo.com>
>>>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>>> *Cc:* "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 November 2012, 12:51
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Who will buy this Sh1m TV?
>>>>
>>>> guys,
>>>> Sharp just launched an 80-inch LED TV in Kenya and the prize is tagged
>>>> at Sh1 million ( see link
>>>> http://businesstoday.co.ke/news/2012/11/22/sharp-returns-kenya-crazy-deal-sh1-million-tv-0) Just who's going to buy this monster?
>>>>
>>>> Luke M.
>>>>
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>>>> Clinton School of Public Service
>>>> University of Arkansas
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Mark Mwangi
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Warigia Bowman
>> Assistant Professor
>> Clinton School of Public Service
>> University of Arkansas
>> wbowman at clintonschool.uasys.edu
>> http://democratizingegypt.blogspot.com
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>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
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>
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Dr. Warigia Bowman
Assistant Professor
Clinton School of Public Service
University of Arkansas
wbowman at clintonschool.uasys.edu
http://democratizingegypt.blogspot.com
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