[kictanet] Thika Road Debate

[Evans Ikua]

Mr Kibati, have you been on Kenyatta Avenue of late? I bet you probably
never find your way to Luthuli Avenue. I dont think it matters who the
roads are under, but this is basically an indication of the kind of
mediocrity that you must deal with if you will have any hopes of delivering
on vision 2030. From shoddy jobs, to shoddy organization. The road between
Embassy Roundabout and Museum Hill ( I am not sure if its called Kipande
Road) was built less than 15 years ago. Today there is no road there worth
talking about. Thats how we do our things. Short term solutions where we
should be overhauling the entire system. I am sure right now someone is
working on an RFP for that particular road.

Kenya, and Nairobi in particular, needs to have a complete overhaul of
everything. We need to plan this city afresh, from square 1. Then we must
come up with a plan for the next 100 years. The big infrastructure projects
going on will help a lot in developing the economy, but what will that mean
for the peasant who cant get adequate medical care when they are sick? Will
our people die of hunger again next year if rains fail? Are we waiting for
that to happen so that we can have yet another mega fund raiser on M-Pesa?
Everything is just ridiculous if you think about it.

Your biggest fight is one against this one evil. Nature does not tolerate
mediocrity!


On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Mugo Kibati <mugo at vision2030.go.ke> wrote:

> Upper Hill is under Kenya Urban Roads Authority. We have road expansion
> and upgrade projects that have taken a while to take off but that have now
> commenced both in Upper Hill and Eastleigh. KURA is also responsible for
> the Western Ring Roads projects.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 27 Jun 2012, at 16:16, Paul Roy <roykoikai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What about roads in upperhill?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Mugo Kibati < <mugo at vision2030.go.ke>
> mugo at vision2030.go.ke> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> Been following this discussion and would just like to make a couple of
>> comments:
>>
>> 1) The roads authorities were created to ensure specific allocation of
>> responsibility which lacked in the past. So Eng. Kidenda as CEO of the
>> Kenya National Highways Authority can be held responsible for the highways
>> and trunk roads but not the urban roads which are squarely the
>> responsibility of the Kenya Urban Roads Authority.
>>
>> 2) We have a great deal yet to do. As one of you intimated, some of what
>> we are doing ought to have been done on the 60s and while that may be true,
>> we still have to do it today if we didn't do it then. This even as we
>> simultaneously move to the next level. The challenges raised by listers
>> here are precisely what we need to raise the bar!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mugo
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 27 Jun 2012, at 11:34, waudo siganga < <emailsignet at mailcan.com>
>> emailsignet at mailcan.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Noted Gaitho. Great article.
>>
>>  On Wed, Jun 27, 2012, at 09:32 AM, Macharia Gaitho wrote:
>>
>>  Waudo,
>>
>>  I did not say that Rural and Urban Roads Authorities lie in Mr Kidenda's
>> docket; I said they fall BELOW has radar. Yaani, they are beneath him.
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>> Macharia Gaitho
>>
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2012, at 21:45, "waudo siganga" < <emailsignet at mailcan.com><emailsignet at mailcan.com>
>> emailsignet at mailcan.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>    Overall I think Mr Gaitho is right. Kenya is a very advanced country
>> in many respects but the poor roads are an enigma. One does not need to go
>> far. I was impressed with the roads in Addis Ababa. Someone told me that
>> the Addis-Moyale road is tarmacked smooth while the Nairobi-Moyale one,
>> which is shorter, is not.
>>  One factual correction though, The Kenya Rural Roads Authority and Kenya
>> Urban Roads Authority are not under the purvue of Eng. Kidenda. He is in
>> charge only of the Kenya National Highways Authority.
>>
>>  Waudo
>>
>>  On Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 06:29 PM, Grace Githaiga wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Listers
>>
>>  I think Macharia Gaitho is referring to our discussions on roads. For
>> those who missed, the link posted below.
>>
>>  Let’s not gloat about building great roads until we venture out of Kenya
>> <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1435452/-/lqcdb7z/-/index.html><http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1435452/-/lqcdb7z/-/index.html>
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1435452/-/lqcdb7z/-/index.html
>>
>>  Rgds
>>  GG
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