[kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint

Wed Oct 5 15:07:49 EAT 2011

Well, when our own teachers are failing at spelling, one wonders...
http://www.elimuportal.net/

(*still* zero response on fixing the typos)

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>   1. Re: Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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>   2. Re: Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>      (Kipkemoi arap Kirui)
>   3. Re: Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:29:26 +0300 (EAT)
> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke
> To: "Kipkemoi arap Kirui" <arapkirui at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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> Kipkemoi arap Kirui,
> In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs subsequent
> inputs.  When the output does not meet the expectations, you either change
> the quality of inputs or revise the processing system.  We need some work
> on our 8-4-4 system.
>
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
> > Andrea,
> >
> > I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and
> > commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet
> building
> > in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or program.
> > How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access competent
> > faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their
> > lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we really
> > blame these Kenyans?
> >
> > I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and elsewhere to search
> > their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan
> > universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating students
> > cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual
> > discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a candidate to
> > the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple
> > questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.
> >
> > Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to understand
> > what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of these
> > institutions any education is at all taking place.
> >
> > Kipkemoi arap Kirui
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:24, info at alyhussein.com wrote:
> >
> >> Andrea
> >>
> >> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and spelling
> >> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with or
> >> without the gun.
> >>
> >> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve ourselves
> >> is what matters.
> >>
> >> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry??
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
> >> Sender: kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com at lists.kictanet.or.keDate:
> >> Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:58:30
> >> To: <info at alyhussein.com>
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> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:40:32 +0300
> From: Kipkemoi arap Kirui <arapkirui at gmail.com>
> To: bitange at jambo.co.ke
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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> Omogambi Ndemo,
>
> Yours is a call to action. Can we diagnose, evaluate and act?
>
> arap Kirui
>
> On 5 October 2011 14:29, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>
> > Kipkemoi arap Kirui,
> > In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs
> subsequent
> > inputs.  When the output does not meet the expectations, you either
> change
> > the quality of inputs or revise the processing system.  We need some work
> > on our 8-4-4 system.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ndemo.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Andrea,
> > >
> > > I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and
> > > commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet
> > building
> > > in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or
> program.
> > > How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access
> competent
> > > faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their
> > > lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we really
> > > blame these Kenyans?
> > >
> > > I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and elsewhere to search
> > > their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan
> > > universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating students
> > > cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual
> > > discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a candidate
> to
> > > the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple
> > > questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.
> > >
> > > Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to understand
> > > what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of
> these
> > > institutions any education is at all taking place.
> > >
> > > Kipkemoi arap Kirui
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:24, info at alyhussein.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> Andrea
> > >>
> > >> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and
> spelling
> > >> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with or
> > >> without the gun.
> > >>
> > >> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve ourselves
> > >> is what matters.
> > >>
> > >> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry?
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
> > >> Sender: kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com at lists.kictanet.or.keDate
> :
> > >> Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:58:30
> > >> To: <info at alyhussein.com>
> > >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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> ICT
> > >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and
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> > >>
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> Date: Wed,  5 Oct 2011 15:01:44 +0300
> From: godera at skyweb.co.ke
> To: James Kagwe <kagwejg at gmail.com>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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> Listers,
>
> In my view this is but a reflection of how standards across the board have
> fallen. There is simply no pride in a good job done- casualness is the
> order of
> the day.'It can pass' - so it is said.
> We need to get back to the thoroughness that once was- ACROSS THE BOARD.
>
> Gilda
>
> Quoting James Kagwe <kagwejg at gmail.com>:
>
> > I have also noted lots of typing errors on the scrolling text especially
> > during 9.00 PM news on most of them.
> >
> > On 10/4/2011 11:11 PM, bitange at jambo.co.ke wrote:
> > > All of today's newspapers had several grammatical errors.  At this time
> and
> > age of ICT, is it not too embarrasing to have such errors?  We have
> > thousands of English majors without jobs.  It is time for media to be
> > thorough in what they do by utilizing our many graduates without jobs.
>  As a
> > Kenyan I get embarrased to see such errors.
> > >
> > > Ndemo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Grace Githaiga<ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
> > > Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 13:32:57
> > > To:<bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > Subject: [kictanet] GSMA: Calls will remain high between African
> countries
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