Well, when our own teachers are failing at spelling, one wonders... <a href="http://www.elimuportal.net/">http://www.elimuportal.net/</a><div><br></div><div>(*still* zero response on fixing the typos)</div><div><br></div>
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Kipkemoi arap Kirui,<br>
In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs subsequent<br>
inputs. When the output does not meet the expectations, you either change<br>
the quality of inputs or revise the processing system. We need some work<br>
on our 8-4-4 system.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Ndemo.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> Andrea,<br>
><br>
> I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and<br>
> commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet building<br>
> in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or program.<br>
> How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access competent<br>
> faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their<br>
> lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we really<br>
> blame these Kenyans?<br>
><br>
> I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and elsewhere to search<br>
> their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan<br>
> universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating students<br>
> cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual<br>
> discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a candidate to<br>
> the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple<br>
> questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.<br>
><br>
> Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to understand<br>
> what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of these<br>
> institutions any education is at all taking place.<br>
><br>
> Kipkemoi arap Kirui<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPad<br>
><br>
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:24, <a href="mailto:info@alyhussein.com">info@alyhussein.com</a> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Andrea<br>
>><br>
>> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and spelling<br>
>> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with or<br>
>> without the gun.<br>
>><br>
>> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve ourselves<br>
>> is what matters.<br>
>><br>
>> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry??<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:40:32 +0300<br>
From: Kipkemoi arap Kirui <<a href="mailto:arapkirui@gmail.com">arapkirui@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint<br>
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Omogambi Ndemo,<br>
<br>
Yours is a call to action. Can we diagnose, evaluate and act?<br>
<br>
arap Kirui<br>
<br>
On 5 October 2011 14:29, <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Kipkemoi arap Kirui,<br>
> In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs subsequent<br>
> inputs. When the output does not meet the expectations, you either change<br>
> the quality of inputs or revise the processing system. We need some work<br>
> on our 8-4-4 system.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Ndemo.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> > Andrea,<br>
> ><br>
> > I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and<br>
> > commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet<br>
> building<br>
> > in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or program.<br>
> > How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access competent<br>
> > faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their<br>
> > lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we really<br>
> > blame these Kenyans?<br>
> ><br>
> > I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and elsewhere to search<br>
> > their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan<br>
> > universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating students<br>
> > cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual<br>
> > discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a candidate to<br>
> > the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple<br>
> > questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.<br>
> ><br>
> > Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to understand<br>
> > what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of these<br>
> > institutions any education is at all taking place.<br>
> ><br>
> > Kipkemoi arap Kirui<br>
> ><br>
> > Sent from my iPad<br>
> ><br>
> > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:24, <a href="mailto:info@alyhussein.com">info@alyhussein.com</a> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Andrea<br>
> >><br>
> >> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and spelling<br>
> >> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with or<br>
> >> without the gun.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve ourselves<br>
> >> is what matters.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry?<br>
> >><br>
> >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> >> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
> >> Sender: kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com@lists.kictanet.or.keDate:<br>
> >> Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:58:30<br>
> >> To: <<a href="mailto:info@alyhussein.com">info@alyhussein.com</a>><br>
> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint<br>
> >><br>
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Listers,<br>
<br>
In my view this is but a reflection of how standards across the board have<br>
fallen. There is simply no pride in a good job done- casualness is the order of<br>
the day.'It can pass' - so it is said.<br>
We need to get back to the thoroughness that once was- ACROSS THE BOARD.<br>
<br>
Gilda<br>
<br>
Quoting James Kagwe <<a href="mailto:kagwejg@gmail.com">kagwejg@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<br>
> I have also noted lots of typing errors on the scrolling text especially<br>
> during 9.00 PM news on most of them.<br>
><br>
> On 10/4/2011 11:11 PM, <a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> wrote:<br>
> > All of today's newspapers had several grammatical errors. At this time and<br>
> age of ICT, is it not too embarrasing to have such errors? We have<br>
> thousands of English majors without jobs. It is time for media to be<br>
> thorough in what they do by utilizing our many graduates without jobs. As a<br>
> Kenyan I get embarrased to see such errors.<br>
> ><br>
> > Ndemo.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Sent from my BlackBerry?<br>
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