[kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint

Wed Oct 5 17:27:49 EAT 2011

My personal opinion:

For typos online on blogs and all, blame it on the touch screen, predictive
text and spell checking whose American English. For print media however,
there is absolutely no excuse, except of course copy and paste from online
blogs, pages and discussions from tabloid lists.

My2Cnts.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, when our own teachers are failing at spelling, one wonders...
> http://www.elimuportal.net/
>
> (*still* zero response on fixing the typos)
>
>
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>>   1. Re: Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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>>   2. Re: Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>>      (Kipkemoi arap Kirui)
>>   3. Re: Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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>> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:29:26 +0300 (EAT)
>> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke
>> To: "Kipkemoi arap Kirui" <arapkirui at gmail.com>
>>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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>> Kipkemoi arap Kirui,
>> In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs subsequent
>> inputs.  When the output does not meet the expectations, you either change
>> the quality of inputs or revise the processing system.  We need some work
>> on our 8-4-4 system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Andrea,
>> >
>> > I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and
>> > commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet
>> building
>> > in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or
>> program.
>> > How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access competent
>> > faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their
>> > lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we really
>> > blame these Kenyans?
>> >
>> > I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and elsewhere to search
>> > their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan
>> > universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating students
>> > cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual
>> > discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a candidate
>> to
>> > the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple
>> > questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.
>> >
>> > Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to understand
>> > what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of these
>> > institutions any education is at all taking place.
>> >
>> > Kipkemoi arap Kirui
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:24, info at alyhussein.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrea
>> >>
>> >> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and
>> spelling
>> >> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with or
>> >> without the gun.
>> >>
>> >> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve ourselves
>> >> is what matters.
>> >>
>> >> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry??
>>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> >> Sender: kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com at lists.kictanet.or.keDate:
>> >> Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:58:30
>> >> To: <info at alyhussein.com>
>> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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>> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:40:32 +0300
>> From: Kipkemoi arap Kirui <arapkirui at gmail.com>
>>
>> To: bitange at jambo.co.ke
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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>> Omogambi Ndemo,
>>
>> Yours is a call to action. Can we diagnose, evaluate and act?
>>
>> arap Kirui
>>
>> On 5 October 2011 14:29, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>
>> > Kipkemoi arap Kirui,
>> > In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs
>> subsequent
>> > inputs.  When the output does not meet the expectations, you either
>> change
>> > the quality of inputs or revise the processing system.  We need some
>> work
>> > on our 8-4-4 system.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ndemo.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Andrea,
>> > >
>> > > I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and
>> > > commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet
>> > building
>> > > in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or
>> program.
>> > > How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access
>> competent
>> > > faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their
>> > > lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we really
>> > > blame these Kenyans?
>> > >
>> > > I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and elsewhere to
>> search
>> > > their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan
>> > > universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating students
>> > > cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual
>> > > discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a candidate
>> to
>> > > the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple
>> > > questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.
>> > >
>> > > Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to
>> understand
>> > > what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of
>> these
>> > > institutions any education is at all taking place.
>> > >
>> > > Kipkemoi arap Kirui
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my iPad
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:24, info at alyhussein.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Andrea
>> > >>
>> > >> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and
>> spelling
>> > >> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with or
>> > >> without the gun.
>> > >>
>> > >> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve
>> ourselves
>> > >> is what matters.
>> > >>
>> > >> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry?
>>
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> > >> Sender: kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com at lists.kictanet.or.keDate
>> :
>> > >> Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:58:30
>> > >> To: <info at alyhussein.com>
>> > >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>> > >>
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>> Date: Wed,  5 Oct 2011 15:01:44 +0300
>> From: godera at skyweb.co.ke
>> To: James Kagwe <kagwejg at gmail.com>
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>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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>> Listers,
>>
>> In my view this is but a reflection of how standards across the board have
>> fallen. There is simply no pride in a good job done- casualness is the
>> order of
>> the day.'It can pass' - so it is said.
>> We need to get back to the thoroughness that once was- ACROSS THE BOARD.
>>
>> Gilda
>>
>> Quoting James Kagwe <kagwejg at gmail.com>:
>>
>> > I have also noted lots of typing errors on the scrolling text especially
>> > during 9.00 PM news on most of them.
>> >
>> > On 10/4/2011 11:11 PM, bitange at jambo.co.ke wrote:
>> > > All of today's newspapers had several grammatical errors.  At this
>> time and
>> > age of ICT, is it not too embarrasing to have such errors?  We have
>> > thousands of English majors without jobs.  It is time for media to be
>> > thorough in what they do by utilizing our many graduates without jobs.
>>  As a
>> > Kenyan I get embarrased to see such errors.
>> > >
>> > > Ndemo.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my BlackBerry?
>>
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Grace Githaiga<ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
>> > > Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> > > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 13:32:57
>> > > To:<bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>> > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> > > Subject: [kictanet] GSMA: Calls will remain high between African
>> countries
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