[kictanet] Are we letting the PS get away with this too?

Fri Jan 21 12:44:20 EAT 2011

It is reassuring that the tariff is a promotion at that sanity shall resume in 
due course.

In closing I would like to understand why no one has raised the issue of the 
government regulating the price of fuel upwards but we all seem to call the 
regulation card when the government tries to stop the free fall of a price.  We 
either want the government totally in or totally out and stop having double 
standards.

Now that I think of it why do we have a cap on the movement of a share during a 
particular trading day would you have preferred it if there was no band set?

Finally let us remember the teachings of Abunuasi, if the sufuri can give bath 
so then can it die.  If we cheer on the government when they regulate the price 
of maize, wheat and petrol we must do the same when they regulate the price of 
airtime.

Regards
 Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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From: [Brainiac] <arebacollins at gmail.com>
To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Thu, 20 January, 2011 11:56:56
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Are we letting the PS get away with this too?

@yawe I would say i agree with you that the best way to tax a nation is  at the 
point of consumption, doing so makes sense to me (hence the  ridiculous 
suggestion i made the other day to scrap all income related  taxes and just up 
vat a point or two), What pains me in this instance  however has more to do with 
the moral authority to impose an additional  tax burden. Is it any surprise to 
you that what is needed to implement  the constitution would be hugely boosted 
by a certain 4.7Billion that  might easily end up somewhere else. 

And just who are we kidding, even if safaricom paid all its income  as tax, what 
is twenty seven billion divided by nine hundred and ninety  something billion 
times a hundred? less than 3% of our budget. I think  as taxpayers we deserve a 
break, at least give us a reason to give  cheerflully .. (for God loves a 
cheerful giver). 

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:44 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

I agree with the PS, the constitution might even be the list of the government 
funded projects to be directly affected by lower mobile tariffs because airtime 
like alcohol and fuel have a sin tax.
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>The best way to tax a nation where 80% of the adults do not pay income tax is to 
>collect at the point of consumption.  KRA has enjoyed good tidings and continues 
>to do so because of implementing a tax regime that is customised to the local 
>environment, peculiar situations by peculiar people require peculiar solutions.
>
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>Note that the tax on airtime is based on a percentage so do the month, if this 
>value keeps dropping the government collects less and therefore has less funds 
>to meet its expenditure obligations.  What  then happens is that they look for 
>other avenues to cover the deficit such as increasing the price of fuel.
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>The airtime wars are not local they are global and we make a very small 
>indentation on this organisations bottom line which makes this a playing ground 
>and us pawns and unless our queen, bishops and rocks protect us we shall be left 
>high and try.
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>Once Airtel realise that their forever tariff changes are not producing the 
>expected results all they need to do is sell off to another multinational player 
>who is then not bound by the forever tariff and can then come in and take over 
>the market from a weakened competition, Strategy 101.
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>Yes, lower tariffs has a far reaching impact than many of us care to consider, 
>that is why we pay our PS what we do so that he can consider such issues.
>
> Robert Yawe
>KAY System Technologies Ltd
>Phoenix House,  6th Floor
>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>Kenya
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>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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>From: [Brainiac] <arebacollins at gmail.com>
>To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>
>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>Sent: Tue, 18 January, 2011 11:42:29
>Subject: [kictanet] Are we letting the PS get away with this too?
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>I seriously hope that this http://bit.ly/famTA5 is just some  fanatical 
>reporting at Nation Media (would not be shocked) but if so, if these words came 
>out of your mouth bwana PS, 
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>THAT THE PRICE WARS IN THE MOBILE INDUSTRY MIGHT DERAIL THE NEW CONSTITUTION. 
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>Are you for Real? Is that not cartel behaviour right there? So now what, are you 
>going to "adjust" the lowest interconnection fees upwards to normalize all this? 
>so that what? Safaricom can make more money? 
>
>
>Playing on the public with FUD now? what happened to market forces? who would 
>run their company to a grind just to offer the cheapest?  Revenue collection? 
>how about we first spend PRUDENTLY what we collect? how about ALL of us pay 
>taxes for starters? and why not just LOWER taxes and increase the tax bracket? 
> 
>I have never been disappointed like i have on reading this. 
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>If it looks like Impunity, Smells like Impunity , guess what it is.... 
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