[kictanet] Are we letting the PS get away with this too?

[Mark Mwangi]

I don't understand the hullabaloo around Airtels tariff. Dont Orange Kenya
have a tariff where you pay 100 bob a month and talk unlimited on-net? isn't
this alot cheaper than 1 bob per minute?

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:56 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins at gmail.com> wrote:

> @yawe I would say i agree with you that the best way to tax a nation is at
> the point of consumption, doing so makes sense to me (hence the ridiculous
> suggestion i made the other day to scrap all income related taxes and just
> up vat a point or two), What pains me in this instance however has more to
> do with the moral authority to impose an additional tax burden. Is it any
> surprise to you that what is needed to implement the constitution would be
> hugely boosted by a certain 4.7Billion that might easily end up somewhere
> else.
>
> And just who are we kidding, even if safaricom paid all its income as tax,
> what is twenty seven billion divided by nine hundred and ninety something
> billion times a hundred? less than 3% of our budget. I think as taxpayers we
> deserve a break, at least give us a reason to give cheerflully .. (for God
> loves a cheerful giver).
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:44 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> I agree with the PS, the constitution might even be the list of the
>> government funded projects to be directly affected by lower mobile tariffs
>> because airtime like alcohol and fuel have a sin tax.
>>
>> The best way to tax a nation where 80% of the adults do not pay income tax
>> is to collect at the point of consumption.  KRA has enjoyed good tidings and
>> continues to do so because of implementing a tax regime that is customised
>> to the local environment, peculiar situations by peculiar people require
>> peculiar solutions.
>>
>> Note that the tax on airtime is based on a percentage so do the month, if
>> this value keeps dropping the government collects less and therefore has
>> less funds to meet its expenditure obligations.  What then happens is that
>> they look for other avenues to cover the deficit such as increasing the
>> price of fuel.
>>
>> The airtime wars are not local they are global and we make a very small
>> indentation on this organisations bottom line which makes this a playing
>> ground and us pawns and unless our queen, bishops and rocks protect us we
>> shall be left high and try.
>>
>> Once Airtel realise that their forever tariff changes are not producing
>> the expected results all they need to do is sell off to another
>> multinational player who is then not bound by the forever tariff and can
>> then come in and take over the market from a weakened competition, Strategy
>> 101.
>>
>> Yes, lower tariffs has a far reaching impact than many of us care to
>> consider, that is why we pay our PS what we do so that he can consider such
>> issues.
>>
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* [Brainiac] <arebacollins at gmail.com>
>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Tue, 18 January, 2011 11:42:29
>> *Subject:* [kictanet] Are we letting the PS get away with this too?
>>
>> I seriously hope that this http://bit.ly/famTA5 is just some fanatical
>> reporting at Nation Media (would not be shocked) but if so, if these words
>> came out of your mouth bwana PS,
>>
>> THAT THE PRICE WARS IN THE MOBILE INDUSTRY MIGHT DERAIL THE NEW
>> CONSTITUTION.
>>
>> Are you for Real? Is that not cartel behaviour right there? So now what,
>> are you going to "adjust" the lowest interconnection fees upwards to
>> normalize all this? so that what? Safaricom can make more money?
>>
>> Playing on the public with FUD now? what happened to market forces? who
>> would run their company to a grind just to offer the cheapest?  Revenue
>> collection? how about we first spend PRUDENTLY what we collect? how about
>> ALL of us pay taxes for starters? and why not just LOWER taxes and increase
>> the tax bracket?
>>
>> I have never been disappointed like i have on reading this.
>>
>> If it looks like Impunity, Smells like Impunity , guess what it is....
>>
>>
>>
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