[kictanet] Commodity Exchange System

Thu Sep 23 10:39:01 EAT 2010

Robert

I like the war cry

As my friend Idd Salim always says ..... "Back to Coding"

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:23 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Who had tested the DOS operating system, Windows OS and closer to home
> MPesa/MKesho/PAP?  Even God created Adam and used him as a prototype for
> testing.
>
> All systems must begin somewhere, at some point there was nothing but did
> the fellows who developed the NSE's ATS system begin with a fully tested and
> proven solution, NO.
>
> Lets stop belittling ourselves, I got children without having to pass an
> exam on parenting so why do we think that we cannot develop a reliable
> solution from scratch, we are baby cries all we do is complain, complain,
> complain and when an opportunity presents itself we crucify it, stone it and
> finally burn it at the stake.
>
> This can only be explained with the great words of our mighty President,
> "hi ni u kumbafu" and as interpreted, by one Hon. Michuki, for the
> uninitiated like Andrea "ni mutu ambaye anajua kile anatakiwa kufanya lakini
> anakataa kukifanya, huyo ni KUBAFU".
>
> We we cannot pull ourselves out of this importation quagmire lets stop
> consuming bandwidth that the ISPs have sworn never to reduce in price.
>
> Lets all have a good day dressed in our imported suites, using imported
> software, on imported computers and sitting on imported chairs.
>
> Asimuamushe alielala . . .
>
> Regards
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>
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> *From:* Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Thu, 23 September, 2010 9:35:41
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Commodity Exchange System
>
> Hey all,
>
> Both the NSE and a future commodity exchange are trading platforms, and I
> think it's crucial, absolutely crucial, that they have flawless technology
> behind them - look at it from the perspective of anyone who trades on them,
> whether small retail investors (of which Kenya has hundreds of thousands) or
> large brokers.
>
> I actually don't care where such a system comes from, whether it's built
> locally or abroad. But I don't think these are the right places to
> experiment with new systems. It has to be tried and tested and reliable.
>
> Have a lovely Thursday,
> Andrea
>
> On 23 September 2010 09:23, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:
>
>>  In other African countries, even where such large projects are
>> outsourced to foreigners, twinning is done with local IT firms as a
>> requirement and subsequent roll-out to branch offices are done entirely by
>> locals - I'm aware of a massive systems deployment within government in a
>> neighboring country where such twinning is being done and the system
>> roll-out will be done by locals. NCPB is a government agency, correct? If
>> so, the government should look inward first!
>>
>> Dr Ndemo, any comment? You've always been an advocate of local innovation.
>>
>> Why do we have global award winners who can't be tried and tested locally?
>> what policy should be in place to encourage local software innovation? The
>> argument that local firms are free to competet alongside international firms
>> at this stage of our development is a "tired" argument in my view. Some
>> "affirmative action" policy may be necessary.
>>
>> Edith
>>
>>
>> *________________                                    *
>>
>> *Edith Ofwona Adera *
>>
>> Senior Program Specialist
>>
>> ICT4D Program and Climate Change & Water Program
>>
>> International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le
>> développement international
>>
>> Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa
>>
>> Tel: +254202713160 | Fax/Téléc: +254202711063 | Skype: edithadera
>>
>> eadera at idrc.or.ke | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>> *From:* kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke[kictanet-bounces+eadera=
>> idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Mwololo Tim [
>> timwololo at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 23 September 2010 08:26
>> *To:* Edith Adera
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Commodity Exchange System
>>
>>  Hi everyone,
>> Let us instead push for a policy that is supportive of local software
>> development. Giving up is not an option. Rgds. tm
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:22 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>
>>>  The National Cereals and Produce Board together with the East African
>>> Grain Council are working towards the creation of a commodity exchange to
>>> trade futures.
>>>
>>>  This process is at an advanced stage which begun with a process called
>>> warehouse receipting and currently Equity Bank offers credit against the
>>> receipts.
>>>
>>>  What does this have to do with us in the IT field?  When the Nairobi
>>> Stock Exchange tendered for the automated trading system (ATS) and more
>>> recently for the Broker Back-office System no local IT company made it past
>>> the 1st round.
>>>
>>>  The fact that companies like Virtual City are winning international
>>> awards for systems development and others like PesaPal are receiving large
>>> direct foreign investments means that we do have the skills to develop world
>>> class solutions.
>>>
>>>  This is an appeal to all ICT experts in the country to prepare
>>> ourselves to make sure that the grain exchange system is locally developed
>>> and we stop being spectators in our own country.  I know it is said that a
>>> prophet is never recognised in his own town, it is time we made this phrase
>>> redundant.
>>>
>>>  NCPB and others are already shopping overseas for a solution so be
>>> warned that time is not in our hands and if we are to have an impact we need
>>> to move quickly.
>>>
>>>  The proposed system is supposed to provide a trading platform,
>>> depository system, GIS for land information, settlement system, warehouse
>>> management, weather monitoring and seed planting information system
>>> (acreage, seed type, fertiliser, etc).
>>>
>>>  Lets get off our high horses and put a together a world class solution
>>> for a local problem.  No tears after the horse has bolted.
>>>
>>>  Useful links
>>>
>>>
>>> http://dn.nationmedia.com/DN/DN/2010/09/03/ArticleHtmls/03_09_2010_030_014.shtml
>>> http://allafrica.com/stories/200904271171.html
>>>  <http://allafrica.com/stories/200904271171.html>
>>> http://www.ratin.net/mainfeature.asp?id=40
>>>  <http://www.ratin.net/mainfeature.asp?id=40>
>>> http://www.monitor.co.ug/Business/Smart%20Money/-/688614/899436/-/bypmdxz/-/index.html
>>> <http://www.monitor.co.ug/Business/Smart%20Money/-/688614/899436/-/bypmdxz/-/index.html>
>>> http://www.unctad.info/upload/SUC/LusakaWorkshop/WarehouseServicesKenya.pdf
>>> <http://www.unctad.info/upload/SUC/LusakaWorkshop/WarehouseServicesKenya.pdf>
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
>>>
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