Robert<br><br>I like the war cry<br><br>As my friend Idd Salim always says ..... "Back to Coding"<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:23 AM, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div></div><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>Who had tested the DOS operating system, Windows OS and closer to home MPesa/MKesho/PAP? �Even God created Adam and used him as a prototype for testing.</div><div><br></div><div>
All systems must begin somewhere, at some point there was nothing but did the fellows who developed the NSE's ATS system begin with a fully tested and proven solution, NO.</div><div><br></div><div>Lets stop belittling ourselves, I got children without having to pass an exam on parenting so why do we think that we cannot develop a reliable solution from scratch, we are baby cries all we do is complain, complain, complain and when an�opportunity�presents itself we crucify it, stone it and finally burn it at the stake.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This can only be
explained with the great words of our mighty President, "hi ni u kumbafu" and as interpreted, by one Hon. Michuki, for the uninitiated like Andrea "ni mutu ambaye anajua kile anatakiwa kufanya lakini anakataa kukifanya, huyo ni KUBAFU".</div>
<div><br></div><div>We we cannot pull ourselves out of this importation quagmire lets stop consuming bandwidth that the ISPs have�sworn never to reduce in price.</div><div><br></div><div>Lets all have a good day dressed in our imported suites, using imported software, on imported computers and sitting on imported chairs.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Asimuamushe alielala . . .</div><div><br></div><div>Regards�<br>�</div><div class="im">Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br>
<br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div class="hm"><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, 23 September, 2010 9:35:41</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Commodity Exchange System<br>
</div></div></font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>Hey all, <br><br>Both the NSE and a future commodity exchange are trading platforms, and I think it's crucial, absolutely crucial, that they have flawless technology behind them - look at it from the perspective of anyone who trades on them, whether small retail investors (of which Kenya has hundreds of thousands) or large brokers. <br>
<br>I actually don't care where such a system comes from, whether it's built locally or abroad. But I don't think these are the right places to experiment with new systems. It has to be tried and tested and reliable.� <br>
<br>Have a lovely Thursday, <br>Andrea <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 September 2010 09:23, Edith Adera <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke" target="_blank">eadera@idrc.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2">In other African countries, even where such large projects are outsourced to foreigners, twinning is done with local IT firms as a requirement and subsequent roll-out to branch offices are done entirely
by locals - I'm aware of a massive systems deployment within government in a neighboring country where such twinning is being done and the system roll-out will be done by locals. NCPB is a government agency, correct? If so, the government should look inward
first! </font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2">Dr Ndemo, any comment? You've always been an advocate of local innovation.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Why do we have global award winners who can't be tried and tested locally? what policy should be in place to encourage local software innovation? The argument that local firms are free to competet alongside international
firms at this stage of our development is a "tired" argument in my view. Some "affirmative action" policy may be necessary.</font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 23 September 2010 08:26<br>
<b>To:</b> Edith Adera<div><br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
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<div>Hi everyone,<br>
Let us instead push for a policy that is supportive of local software development. Giving up is not an option. Rgds. tm<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:22 PM, robert yawe <span dir="ltr">
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<div>The National Cereals and Produce Board together with the East African Grain Council are working towards the creation of a commodity exchange to trade futures.</div>
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<div>This process is at an advanced stage which begun with a process called warehouse receipting and currently Equity Bank offers credit against the receipts.</div>
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<div>What does this have to do with us in the IT field? �When the Nairobi Stock Exchange tendered for the automated trading system (ATS) and more recently for the Broker Back-office System no local IT company made it past the 1st round. �</div>
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<div>The fact that companies like Virtual City are winning international awards for systems development and others like PesaPal are receiving large direct foreign investments means that we do have the skills to develop world class solutions.</div>
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<div>This is an appeal to all ICT experts in the country to prepare ourselves to make sure that the grain exchange system is locally developed and we stop being spectators in our own country. �I know it is said that a prophet is never�recognised in his own
town, it is time we made this phrase redundant.</div>
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<div>NCPB and others are already shopping overseas for a solution so be warned that time is not in our hands and if we are to have an impact we need to move quickly.</div>
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<div>The proposed system is supposed to provide a trading platform, depository system, GIS for land information, settlement system, warehouse management, weather monitoring and seed planting information system (acreage, seed type, fertiliser, etc).</div>
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<div>Lets get off our high horses and put a together a world class solution for a local problem. �No tears after the horse has bolted.</div>
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