[kictanet] Commodity Exchange System

Thu Sep 23 10:23:29 EAT 2010

Hi,

Who had tested the DOS operating system, Windows OS and closer to home 
MPesa/MKesho/PAP?  Even God created Adam and used him as a prototype for 
testing.

All systems must begin somewhere, at some point there was nothing but did the 
fellows who developed the NSE's ATS system begin with a fully tested and proven 
solution, NO.

Lets stop belittling ourselves, I got children without having to pass an exam on 
parenting so why do we think that we cannot develop a reliable solution from 
scratch, we are baby cries all we do is complain, complain, complain and when 
an opportunity presents itself we crucify it, stone it and finally burn it at 
the stake.

This can only be explained with the great words of our mighty President, "hi ni 
u kumbafu" and as interpreted, by one Hon. Michuki, for the uninitiated like 
Andrea "ni mutu ambaye anajua kile anatakiwa kufanya lakini anakataa kukifanya, 
huyo ni KUBAFU".

We we cannot pull ourselves out of this importation quagmire lets stop consuming 
bandwidth that the ISPs have sworn never to reduce in price.

Lets all have a good day dressed in our imported suites, using imported 
software, on imported computers and sitting on imported chairs.

Asimuamushe alielala . . .

Regards 
 Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 9:35:41
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Commodity Exchange System

Hey all, 

Both the NSE and a future commodity exchange are trading platforms, and I think 
it's crucial, absolutely crucial, that they have flawless technology behind them 
- look at it from the perspective of anyone who trades on them, whether small 
retail investors (of which Kenya has hundreds of thousands) or large brokers. 

I actually don't care where such a system comes from, whether it's built locally 
or abroad. But I don't think these are the right places to experiment with new 
systems. It has to be tried and tested and reliable.  

Have a lovely Thursday, 
Andrea 

On 23 September 2010 09:23, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:

In other African countries, even where such large projects are outsourced to 
foreigners, twinning is done with local IT firms as a requirement and subsequent 
roll-out to branch offices are done entirely  by locals - I'm aware of a massive 
systems deployment within government in a neighboring country where such 
twinning is being done and the system roll-out will be done by locals. NCPB is a 
government agency, correct? If so, the government should look inward  first! 

> 
>Dr Ndemo, any comment? You've always been an advocate of local innovation.
> 
>Why do we have global award winners who can't be tried and tested locally? what 
>policy should be in place to encourage local software innovation? The argument 
>that local firms are free to competet alongside international  firms at this 
>stage of our development is a "tired" argument in my view. Some "affirmative 
>action" policy may be necessary.
> 
>Edith
> 
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>ICT4D Program and Climate Change & Water Program
>International  Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le 
>développement international
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 From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke 
[kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Mwololo 
Tim [timwololo at gmail.com]
>Sent: 23 September 2010 08:26
>To: Edith Adera
>
>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>
>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Commodity Exchange System
>
>
>Hi everyone,
>Let us instead push for a policy that is supportive of local software 
>development. Giving up is not an option. Rgds. tm
>
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:22 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>>
>>
>>The National Cereals and Produce Board together with the East African Grain 
>>Council are working towards the creation of a commodity exchange to trade 
>>futures.
>>
>>
>>This process is at an advanced stage which begun with a process called warehouse 
>>receipting and currently Equity Bank offers credit against the receipts.
>>
>>
>>What does this have to do with us in the IT field?  When the Nairobi Stock 
>>Exchange tendered for the automated trading system (ATS) and more recently for 
>>the Broker Back-office System no local IT company made it past the 1st round.  
>>
>>
>>The fact that companies like Virtual City are winning international awards for 
>>systems development and others like PesaPal are receiving large direct foreign 
>>investments means that we do have the skills to develop world class solutions.
>>
>>
>>This is an appeal to all ICT experts in the country to prepare ourselves to make 
>>sure that the grain exchange system is locally developed and we stop being 
>>spectators in our own country.  I know it is said that a prophet is 
>>never recognised in his own  town, it is time we made this phrase redundant.
>>
>>
>>NCPB and others are already shopping overseas for a solution so be warned that 
>>time is not in our hands and if we are to have an impact we need to move 
>>quickly.
>>
>>
>>The proposed system is supposed to provide a trading platform, depository 
>>system, GIS for land information, settlement system, warehouse management, 
>>weather monitoring and seed planting information system (acreage, seed type, 
>>fertiliser, etc).
>>
>>
>>Lets get off our high horses and put a together a world class solution for a 
>>local problem.  No tears after the horse has bolted.
>>
>>
>>Useful links
>>
>>
>>http://dn.nationmedia.com/DN/DN/2010/09/03/ArticleHtmls/03_09_2010_030_014.shtml
>
>>http://allafrica.com/stories/200904271171.html
>>http://www.ratin.net/mainfeature.asp?id=40
>>http://www.monitor.co.ug/Business/Smart%20Money/-/688614/899436/-/bypmdxz/-/index.html
>>
>>http://www.unctad.info/upload/SUC/LusakaWorkshop/WarehouseServicesKenya.pdf
>>
>> 
Robert Yawe
>>KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>Kenya
>>
>>
>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 
>>
>>
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