[kictanet] Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?

Tue Feb 9 12:33:44 EAT 2010

Guys,

This is quite informative.. Please keep the debate going.

And all this, is development...

Harry

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From: S.Murigi Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?
To: Brian Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>

Well Cisco had sued them for .... 

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Brian Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com> wrote:

Murigi,

Actually, if you look at all of Huawei and ZTEs CDMA products, they
purchase/license the core chip from Qualcomm, who have the patent for the
technology. In fact, they ate Qualcomms biggest partner.

Brian

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On Feb 9, 2010, at 10:37 AM, S.Murigi Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>
wrote:

All well & good. If the Chinese listened to these kinds of (valid) points
there would be no Huawei or ZTE in existence. Knowledge first (primary) &
legalities (later but) not to be ignored.

No nation has developed by impressing foreigners but primarily by being
civilized (not harming anyone including foreigners), believing in its own
people & by promoting learning with its boundaries.

SMM

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From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 09:47
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?

Good morning all, 

I didn't refer to Prof. Kamau, I referred to the statement of Dr Ndemo,
which he kindly qualified. I am aware of the debate of generic drugs and the
arguments made that the public good should override patent rights. But this
is, as I'm sure everyone is also aware of, a complex topic, with an equally
complex international legal framework, and as much as it's easy to hate big
pharma, I think some recognition needs to be given to companies that invest
heavily in R&D. 

In the Kenyan debate specifically, I would find it counterproductive if
senior government officials openly call for patent right infringements (and
again, Dr Ndemo did qualify his statement). Apart from the fact that I'd
rather like to see innovation encouraged, it does nothing for Kenya's image
towards international ICT and tech investors or people looking to outsource
processes. Copy right and patent infringement and intellectual property
right theft was and is a big concern in China, and Kenya has none of the
advantages that China offers to offset these: very low-cost manufacturing
environment and a huge domestic market. It's a bit of a contradiction to
call for e.g. certifications etc to build international credibility, and
then offset it with a signal like this. 

On the IPad specificially: I doubt that Kenyan companies, even if they
managed to copy the IPad, would be able to build it at a lower cost, and the
way the education sector is run now, they'd be stolen just as quickly as any
book - probably faster. I went to the Intel Classmate launch a couple of
years ago and they made a useful point that just handing out kiddie laptops
is not the solution: You need the whole ecosystem to make them productive.
Electricity, connectivity, a place to lock them up, and importantly a
teaching plan that they are integrated into. 

Have a lovely day, 
Andrea  

On 9 February 2010 09:07, Walubengo J < <mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com>
jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

@Andrea,

Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?

If I was Prof. Kamau, I would carefully ride on both - depending on the
convenience of the laws applicable and the demand for public good. Draw the
parallel with generic HIV medicines...

walu.

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Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:40 AM

Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?

On 8 February 2010 21:01, < <http://mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke>
bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:

Dear listers,
Prof. Kamau, University of Nairobi's engineering school has successifully
reverse engineered the converter box for digital TV.  Those willing to visit
the fab lab next week should register with Awiti in my office.  His e-mail
is  <http://mc/compose?to=nawiti@information.go.ke>
nawiti at information.go.ke.

I am hoping soon we can reverse engineer the ipad so that we can use it to
distribute e-books to all kids in the country and avoid this theft of
textbooks.

Regards.

Ndemo.
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