[kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussion- Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy

Thu Jun 23 15:51:29 EAT 2022

Hi Adam,

Well the standards are pretty high level but they elicit a sense of
responsibility from anyone who acquires them towards ensuring their
information assets are properly managed and well protected. Digitalization
revolves around processes , the standards actually address such processes.
Not sure if there is a simpler solution among other bodies such as ISACA.
Probably ISACA members on the list can shed some light. @Mwendwa Kivuva
<kivuva at kictanet.or.ke>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 3:38 PM Adam Lane <adam.lane at huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi Barrack, are those standards addressing the issue I raise around data
> protection and privacy, i.e. if you meet the standard then you do not share
> data to third parties, or that any data you share is anonymized, or to some
> other definition? I am not an ISO expert, but I thought they focus more on
> following processes than actual results, and may not be specific enough to
> convince me they are not sharing my data….
>
>
>
> Maybe I am just not well enough informed, in which case whoever promotes
> such ISO standards that can assure me of such are not promoting it very
> well, or have few apps/websites/services adopting such standards, or both….
>
>
>
> Being voluntary is a good thing. But there needs to be awareness of the
> benefits of those standards; and maybe some market pressure to adopt the
> standards
>
>
>
> *From:* Barrack Otieno [mailto:barrack at kictanet.or.ke]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2022 2:58 PM
> *To:* Kenya's premier ICT Policy engagement platform <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>; John Walubengo <jwalubengo at kictanet.or.ke>
> *Cc:* Adam Lane <adam.lane at huawei.com>; awatila at gmail.com
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online
> Discussion- Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy
>
>
>
> Hi @Adam Lane <adam.lane at huawei.com>
>
>
>
> Many thanks. We have tonnes of domesticated ISO 27,000 series Standards at
> the Kenya Bureau of Standards. Together with @John Walubengo
> <jwalubengo at kictanet.or.ke> and other listers we have been involved in
> local standards development. The Challenge we have always faced is that
> Standards focusing on ICT are voluntary. Only those touching on Health and
> Safety are mandatory. With creation of the Office of the Data Protection
> Commissioner, things might change.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 2:45 PM Adam Lane via KICTANet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> I would say the main issue I have is that most services/websites/apps
> don’t give any options. You accept the Terms and Conditions or you don’t.
> It is good that nowadays, at least in Android that I know well, permissions
> can be easily denied or limited for apps in relation to accessing certain
> functions from the device. However this is not the same as using data
> itself. Hopefully in the future there will be more flexibility and options
> around what one accepts. With cookies, some websites give options (either a
> list of several things you can toggle on or off, or options of reject,
> minimum required, all) though other websites don’t give options at all.
>
>
>
> I am not aware of any voluntary standards in Kenya that a
> website/app/service could self-certify against or be independently verified
> against that shows they meet such standards around use of data
> protection/privacy. An Act really only defines illegal and legal, but it is
> good to have different options within legal that can show strong, stronger,
> very strong protections, for example, that are something that is voluntary
> but could be recognized by users.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* KICTANet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=
> huawei.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Alex Watila via KICTANet
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2022 2:36 PM
> *To:* Adam Lane <adam.lane at huawei.com>
> *Cc:* awatila at gmail.com
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online
> Discussion- Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy
>
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> On question 1 I think people are over fearful regarding  the issue of data
> protection. I would suggest that they need to take the same approach as
> organizations are doing by conducting  a personal data privacy impact
> assessment. E.g. what is the real risk of your personal identifiable
> Information leaking?
>
>
>
> One example I considered in say your telephone number. You hide it online
> but hand out your business cards that have your contact details.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Consultant
>
> ICT4D
>
> *Quality Management Systems
> <https://advisera.com/27001academy/#a_aid=621f58ced9bb1&a_bid=f79f3b0b> *
>
> *Information Security Management Systems
> <https://advisera.com/27001academy/#a_aid=621f58ced9bb1&a_bid=f79f3b0b>*
>
>
>
> *From:* KICTANet <kictanet-bounces+awatila=gmail.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *On Behalf Of *Judy Okite via KICTANet
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2022 5:07 AM
> *To:* Alex Watila <awatila at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Judy Okite <judyokite at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussion-
> Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy
>
>
> Good Morning Listers,
>
>
>
> As mentioned earlier by the KIGF- MAG Chair, we begin the online
> discussions today.
>
>
>
> *Topic: Governing Data and Protecting Privacy *
>
>
>
> The Kenya Data Protection Act <https://www.odpc.go.ke/dpa-act/>was
> gazetted in 2019 ,
>
>  An Act of Parliament to give effect to Article 31(c) and (d) of the
> Constitution of Kenya , 2010 (Right to privacy);
>
> - To establish the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner;
>
> - To make provision for the regulation of the processing of personal data;
>
> - To provide for the rights of data subjects and obligations of data
> controllers and processors; and for connected purposes
>
>
>
>
>
> To kick off these discussions, we ask;
>
>
>
> 1. As a lister how safe do you feel about the safety of your personal data
> online?What do you think could be done better to improve the protection of
> data online?
>
> 2. How safe are children and persons with disabilities on their data
> privacy?
>
>
>
> We look forward to a vibrant discussion and once again do not forget to
> register to participate in this year's main IGF events using this
>
>  link:  https://bit.ly/39pXf9a .Our official hashtag is *#KeIGF2022*
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 6:12 AM Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via KICTANet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Good morning Listers,
>
>
>
> Receive warm greetings from the Multi Advisory Group (MAG) that has been
> working to prepare this year's Kenya Internet Governance Forum (KIGF).
> Ahead of the KIGF week, there shall be a series of online discussions to
> set the pace for the discussions that shall be held during the KIGF.
>
>
>
> The online discussion will run from the 22nd to the 24th of June and the
> following are the discussion topics.
>
>
>
> Day 1. *Governing data and protecting privacy.*
>
> Day 2. *ICT's and the upcoming elections.*
>
> Day 3. *Connecting all people and promoting cyber hygiene and emerging
> issues including youth, online work, inclusion and regulation.*
>
>
>
> The discussion topics shall be posted by a moderator and we invite all of
> you to participate. Also do remember to register for your participation
> in this year's main IGF events using this link: https://bit.ly/39pXf9a .Our
> official hashtag is *#KeIGF2022*
>
>
>
> Good day!
>
>
>
> Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu
>
> KIGF 2022 MAG Chair
>
> Advocate
>
> Public Policy, Data Protection and Regulatory Affairs Specialist
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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