[kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussion- Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy

Thu Jun 23 15:38:19 EAT 2022

Hi Barrack, are those standards addressing the issue I raise around data protection and privacy, i.e. if you meet the standard then you do not share data to third parties, or that any data you share is anonymized, or to some other definition? I am not an ISO expert, but I thought they focus more on following processes than actual results, and may not be specific enough to convince me they are not sharing my data….

Maybe I am just not well enough informed, in which case whoever promotes such ISO standards that can assure me of such are not promoting it very well, or have few apps/websites/services adopting such standards, or both….

Being voluntary is a good thing. But there needs to be awareness of the benefits of those standards; and maybe some market pressure to adopt the standards

From: Barrack Otieno [mailto:barrack at kictanet.or.ke]
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussion- Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy

Hi @Adam Lane<mailto:adam.lane at huawei.com>

Many thanks. We have tonnes of domesticated ISO 27,000 series Standards at the Kenya Bureau of Standards. Together with @John Walubengo<mailto:jwalubengo at kictanet.or.ke> and other listers we have been involved in local standards development. The Challenge we have always faced is that Standards focusing on ICT are voluntary. Only those touching on Health and Safety are mandatory. With creation of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner, things might change.

Best Regards

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 2:45 PM Adam Lane via KICTANet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
I would say the main issue I have is that most services/websites/apps don’t give any options. You accept the Terms and Conditions or you don’t. It is good that nowadays, at least in Android that I know well, permissions can be easily denied or limited for apps in relation to accessing certain functions from the device. However this is not the same as using data itself. Hopefully in the future there will be more flexibility and options around what one accepts. With cookies, some websites give options (either a list of several things you can toggle on or off, or options of reject, minimum required, all) though other websites don’t give options at all.

I am not aware of any voluntary standards in Kenya that a website/app/service could self-certify against or be independently verified against that shows they meet such standards around use of data protection/privacy. An Act really only defines illegal and legal, but it is good to have different options within legal that can show strong, stronger, very strong protections, for example, that are something that is voluntary but could be recognized by users.

Regards
Adam

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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussion- Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy

Dear Listers,
On question 1 I think people are over fearful regarding  the issue of data protection. I would suggest that they need to take the same approach as organizations are doing by conducting  a personal data privacy impact assessment. E.g. what is the real risk of your personal identifiable Information leaking?

One example I considered in say your telephone number. You hide it online but hand out your business cards that have your contact details.

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Subject: [kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussion- Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy

Good Morning Listers,

As mentioned earlier by the KIGF- MAG Chair, we begin the online discussions today.

Topic: Governing Data and Protecting Privacy

The Kenya Data Protection Act <https://www.odpc.go.ke/dpa-act/> was gazetted in 2019 ,
 An Act of Parliament to give effect to Article 31(c) and (d) of the Constitution of Kenya , 2010 (Right to privacy);
- To establish the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner;
- To make provision for the regulation of the processing of personal data;
- To provide for the rights of data subjects and obligations of data controllers and processors; and for connected purposes

To kick off these discussions, we ask;

1. As a lister how safe do you feel about the safety of your personal data online?What do you think could be done better to improve the protection of data online?
2. How safe are children and persons with disabilities on their data privacy?

We look forward to a vibrant discussion and once again do not forget to register to participate in this year's main IGF events using this
 link:  https://bit.ly/39pXf9a .Our official hashtag is #KeIGF2022

Kind Regards,

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 6:12 AM Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via KICTANet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Good morning Listers,

Receive warm greetings from the Multi Advisory Group (MAG) that has been working to prepare this year's Kenya Internet Governance Forum (KIGF).  Ahead of the KIGF week, there shall be a series of online discussions to set the pace for the discussions that shall be held during the KIGF.

The online discussion will run from the 22nd to the 24th of June and the following are the discussion topics.

Day 1. Governing data and protecting privacy.
Day 2. ICT's and the upcoming elections.
Day 3. Connecting all people and promoting cyber hygiene and emerging issues including youth, online work, inclusion and regulation.

The discussion topics shall be posted by a moderator and we invite all of you to participate. Also do remember to register for your participation in this year's main IGF events using this link: https://bit.ly/39pXf9a .Our official hashtag is #KeIGF2022

Good day!

Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu
KIGF 2022 MAG Chair
Advocate
Public Policy, Data Protection and Regulatory Affairs Specialist

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