[kictanet] U.S. FTA Agreement

[Erick Mwangi]

Lastly before i forget, KE does not have any TA with Somalia or its many
splinter states, yet we have 5 flights everyday to Somalia ferrying Miraa!

I still quite see what the US angle is, time will tell.

E Njoroge Mwangi
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On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:54 AM Erick Mwangi <erick.mwangi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> There are a lot of things going on here, the spirit of AfCTA is to
> discourage bilateral TAs but again self interest trumps everything. US FTAs
> with developing countries are usually quite predictable save for few issues
> ie Taxation, beneficial ownership etc.
>
> That said, I think TAs are overrated, US/India have traded for more than
> 30 years on human ICT without any deal as it were - India produces the best
> ICT brains, the US buys them, no questions asked, no favours demanded. Most
> trade deals are political (agency grandstanding), citizens of different
> countries trade with each other because it's beneficial to them.
>
> Take for example Pakistan, they are the biggest buy of KE tea. The simple
> reason is because they cannot bear to import tea from next door India,
> however the suits will lead you to believe it's because of the KE-PAK trade
> deal.
>
> The UK recently announced that non-graduate Kenyans will be allowed to get
> work permits and work in the UK, what you is not outlined is, when  UK
> leaves the  EU on Jan 31, it will no longer access the Eastern Europe fruit
> pickers/ packers and this is where our brothers and sisters come-in, again
> some-one will stand on a podium with an ugly suit and say it's because of
> the UK-KE trade deal.
>
> Best
>
> E Njoroge Mwangi
> Technology| FINTECH | Big Data
>
> Cell +44 7539372742
> Skype: Erick.mwangi
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 9:42 AM Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Eng Kariuki,
>>
>> You wrote like 11 elders.
>>
>> Spot on
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020, 10:09 am John Kariuki via kictanet, <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Ali, listers.
>>> Please remember that "Trade Agreements" are about "self-interest" of
>>> those initiating the process. They are not primarily intended to help
>>> developing countries.
>>> In our current situation, the other party has long experience in that
>>> field, including NAFTA(Mexico, US, Canada) in 1994.
>>> For a general brief on this subject, please read Chapter 3,"Making Trade
>>> Fair", of the book - Making Globalization Work, by Prof. Stiglitz, who won
>>> Nobel Prize in Economics in 2001.
>>>
>>> Regarding our strategy, I would say the following. "A country is not a
>>> big company", according to Prof. Krugman, a Nobel Prize winner in
>>> economics. He further adds" The skills learned in business are not useful
>>> while formulating economic policy. Even the best businessmen are often very
>>> poor in formulating economic policy. Business is about self interest while
>>> economic policy is about National Interest. It would therefore be naive to
>>> let private interests lead or even dominate national interest matters.
>>> They're good at what they do but lack competence in matters of public
>>> policy.
>>>
>>> John Kariuki
>>>
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