[kictanet] - proper representation during vision formulation is what is missing - Konza City is now 10 years old

John Tanui tanuijohn at gmail.com
Fri Jan 4 21:28:12 EAT 2019 

We shall continue with this conversation, we appreciate your input, comments and suggestions.

We can arrange to host you at Konza Technopolis site in February. We look forward to getting a confirmation of a date for KICTANet visit to site for a further engagement.

Regards
John Tanui

> On 4 Jan 2019, at 20:12, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Many thanks for your prompt response and for taking this discussion
> seriously. I think there is need for greater engagement with
> stakeholders to ensure  this picture remains ingrained in our hearts
> and minds. You have certainly started of on the right path. From the
> interview with Capital FM , it appears you have managed to raise
> significant funding (KES 39 Billion).
> I have noticed that you have had special days for Policy Makers to
> make site visits. Can you organize something similar for the Policy
> and Tech practitioners on KICTANet and Skunkworks in partnership with
> KICTAnet?. This is a great conversation that should continue. From the
> Interview, you say that the critical thing for the project is to take
> off and not completion which i beg to disagree with even though it
> answers the question Washington is asking on whether Konza is dead or
> alive.
> 
> Thank you once again for your respone
> 
> Regards
> 
>> On 1/4/19, John Tanui via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Huawei Mobile
>> Great comments and suggestions are noted here. The interest is appreciated
>> and we look forward to engaging all our stakeholders especially the tech
>> community.
>> 
>> As the person leading the team on implementation of this project, let me
>> give a brief status on the project.
>> 
>> Konza Technopolis project is on, it's now moving from planning to
>> implementation stage. In 2018 two key progress made is the start of the
>> implementation of  the horizontal infrastructure on phase 1, first building
>> approaching completion and bringing onboard a design consultant for the
>> research institute to be based at Konza.
>> 
>> Below are two recent interviews capturing the latest on the project
>> 
>> https://hapakenya.com/2018/12/07/ceo-fridays-kotdas-john-tanui-on-konza-city-as-the-future-of-innovation-and-technology-in-kenya/
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/rgr4tQtSzJw
>> 
>> Just like the growth history of some of the world leading innovation
>> spaces/science parks, Konza Technopolis has a long way to go, it's journey
>> is still at the early stages but now taking shape.
>> 
>> Below is some lessons from one of the world's leading science and technology
>> park  - the research triangle park
>> 
>> https://www.dartmouth.edu/~jtscott/Papers/00-22.pdf
>> 
>> There are other different examples of how such innovation and technology
>> spaces have developed which we can learn from as we fast track bring the
>> dream of Konza Technopolis into reality. Some include the great and long
>> history of of the silicon Valley, the shenzhen city of China and the Korea's
>> great transformation  journey which happened in one generation.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Eng. John Tanui
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] - proper representation during vision formulation is
>> what is missing - Konza City is now 10 years old
>> From: Odhiambo Washington via kictanet
>> To: tanuijohn at gmail.com
>> CC: Odhiambo Washington
>> 
>> 
>>> So, in conclusion, Konza is dead??
>>> 
>>> I can only see suggestions, but nobody is answering the question.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 14:47, Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Barrack, well noted. Personally I would wish for Konza to
>>>> succeed... maybe the vision should be broadened initially e.g. pitching
>>>> it as a general SEZ where people can buy low priced duty free goods (like
>>>> a "little dubai") provided they are locally manufactured.
>>>> 
>>>> Gov could recover the taxes indirectly e.g. through PAYE for the new jobs
>>>> created. Hence a win/win. Price of rent and core services would have to
>>>> be controlled (kept below market) for an initial period - say 10 years b4
>>>> gradually transitioning to "free markets".
>>>> 
>>>> Incentives that boost regional demand for outputs could be what is
>>>> missing. If business people know they will make money in Konza, they will
>>>> set up.
>>>> 
>>>> The grandiosity would need to be scaled down initially with focus being
>>>> in foot traffic. Why not do the roads then install tents and run a
>>>> section of it as a trading SEZ for existing local manufacturers (anywhere
>>>> in Kenya) - say for an initial 1 year trial and those that want to
>>>> continue past that period would be asked to locate the manufacturing of
>>>> those products on site...
>>>> 
>>>> Real incentives minimise risk perceptions making it a no brainier....
>>>> 
>>>> Brgds.
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday, January 4, 2019, 12:38:56 PM GMT+3, Barrack Otieno
>>>> <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks for the great points. I totally agree with you. That said all
>>>> is not lost. I attended the launch of Konza by his Excellency President
>>>> Kibaki. The former President in his off the cuff remarks alluded to the
>>>> fact that the project had faced a lot of opposition from the onset by
>>>> those who felt it was a misplaced priority. He actually compared it to
>>>> those that never believed that the country would have free primary
>>>> education. In his opinion Konza was an idea whose time had come. Its
>>>> unfortunate that the change in government came with new priorities. That
>>>> said, there is still hope for Konza, the dual carriageway to Mombasa and
>>>> the SGR will literally bring the City closer to Nairobi thus solving
>>>> mobility issues. One just needs to drive to Machakos to see where Nairobi
>>>> is expanding to. The Government also needs to prioritize the project and
>>>> fund it just as it has done with the SGR. I agree with you that there is
>>>> need for broader stakeholder engagement. The Ministry of Trade and
>>>> Industry and the relevant government arm that deals with Technical and
>>>> Vocational Education. I would have hoped to see visionaries like Dr.
>>>> Bitange Ndemo, Nyaki Adeya and even the former President Mwai Kibaki play
>>>> an active advisory role on the Konza project.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 4:42 PM Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet
>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The root cause is a lack of proper indigenous MSME representation in the
>>>>> boards and committees that come up with these kinds of visions.
>>>>> Currently where representation exists, it is skewed either in favor of
>>>>> multinationals / bigCorp or to lobbyists beholden to multinationals
>>>>> /bigCorp simply because they have networks for (or can buy) access.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The (flawed) argument in favor of BigCorp is that they represent the big
>>>>> employers or large taxpayers - and I'll explain why its flawed. Big
>>>>> companies operate at higher levels of efficiency compared to smaller
>>>>> companies (because they can leverage automation for example). This is
>>>>> good in the developed world with single-digit unemployment and where
>>>>> where a middle-class already exists - but *terrible* in developing
>>>>> countries with high levels of poverty and >25% unemployment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In developing countries the focus should be on *effectiveness* (not
>>>>> efficiency). For example if you want to create jobs, you know the
>>>>> biggest employer from a macro perspective is the MSMEs because their low
>>>>> levels of operational efficiency forces them to hire more workers for a
>>>>> given economic endeavor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The gap is exponential such that an economic activity that big corp
>>>>> achieves with 10 employees may require 50 startups - each with 2-5
>>>>> employees. If you look at it from an activity perspective, the MSME
>>>>> sector suddenly becomes a mega employer creating jobs at exponential
>>>>> rates (greater than 1000% per economic activity!!!). These are the
>>>>> hidden insights that don't get considered at the right platforms when
>>>>> incentives are being developed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Further, the MSMEs can't afford armies of specialized tax accountants
>>>>> and offshore tax havens. This means that Government can tailor
>>>>> incentives with tax on-boarding (e.g. via a "Taxation Sandbox" for
>>>>> indigenous startups) so that as these MSMEs grow, the Government would
>>>>> be able to collect more taxes from them (and on a broader - more
>>>>> macro-economically stable scale). So MSMEs as a collective also have
>>>>> potential to be come mega taxpayers. The goal should not be to milk
>>>>> taxes today - but to create a robust group of future (3-7 years)
>>>>> taxpayers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Macroeconomic stability is another benefit inherent in MSMEs. Rather
>>>>> than relying on all-or nothing all-eggs-in-one-basket approach that is
>>>>> inevitable with big-corp FDI, the government can build entire ecosystems
>>>>> across a diverse range of sectors. The benefits of this are innumerable.
>>>>> One example is that MSMEs don't bully/bribe the government bureaucracy
>>>>> for unproductive or harmful concessions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As elucidated in Kachwanya's insightful article, the quality of FDI
>>>>> matters. We shouldn't market our people as slave labor. This could have
>>>>> worked in China and India but that era of cheap is now over (AI /
>>>>> Robotics / IoT is quickly making that obsolete). There are technologies
>>>>> that can fully automate basic BPO services (e.g. end user support via NL
>>>>> AI). A proper strategic policy would take modern trends into
>>>>> consideration and identify high-value niches where Kenya can offer a
>>>>> strong global value proposition.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another thing Government planners appear to have overlooked is the idea
>>>>> of FDI via acquisition of indigenous startups. This strategy has been
>>>>> executed very well in China and India - which have contextualized their
>>>>> IP and industry laws to give an edge to indigenous clones of trending
>>>>> technologies (e.g. Flipkart in India). Governments all over the world
>>>>> subsidize their startups in order to generate new streams of foreign
>>>>> exchange.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other mistake that I see is reliance on academia / professors for
>>>>> policy guidance... As much as the academia is trying, the reality is
>>>>> that these are the same book-smart academia that churns out half-baked
>>>>> graduates who are out of touch with industry. The local music industry
>>>>> in Kenya is now worth several hundred million shillings as an industry
>>>>> (with potential for billions) and they don't have any professors running
>>>>> their show. Its the street-smart practitioners on the ground who have
>>>>> transformed the industry...
>>>>> 
>>>>> "It is the shoe wearer who know where the shoe hurts."
>>>>> 
>>>>> So to avoid well meaning initiatives like Konza mutating into unintended
>>>>> flops, the government should co-opt practitioner stakeholders who
>>>>> understand the real issues in an industry and who have a desire and
>>>>> vision of a thriving ecosystem. People who can see far ahead - like
>>>>> Kachwana... I am totally blown away by how his 2013 article is so *spot
>>>>> on* - it's like he had a crystal ball!
>>>>> 
>>>>> In business they say the most valuable customer is the one who
>>>>> complains, because that's how you genuinely know where to improve. I
>>>>> believe the same applies at policy and strategic projects level. We want
>>>>> our country to get it right so that everyone can succeed. It's not
>>>>> negativity - its a desire to improve things at ecosystem level for the
>>>>> benefit of all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thankfully our President is on board with the need for MSME incentives
>>>>> and that makes me optimistic that the Country's vision is evolving in a
>>>>> good direction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Happy new year everyone and may you have a prosperous and successful
>>>>> 2019!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rgds,
>>>>> Patrick A. M. Maina.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, January 3, 2019, 3:24:00 PM GMT+3, Mildred Achoch via
>>>>> kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting conversation. Odhiambo Washington, you mentioning that there
>>>>> is a white paper about Konza prompted me to search for it online. I came
>>>>> across this instead. Written 6 years ago but very pertinent today, I
>>>>> think.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.kachwanya.com/2013/01/23/konza-city-meet-the-design-of-a-white-elephant-project-in-the-name-of-silicon-savannah/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mildred Achoch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
>>>>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:06 PM Odhiambo Washington via kictanet
>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Errr, Sam Oduor - I have a feeling that there's a strategy/white paper
>>>>>> somewhere on this Konza thing that might not be in agreement with your
>>>>>> long input.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Usually techies are not historians like you seem inclined. Konza was,
>>>>>> IMHO, supposed to be an ICT hub, not a museum project.
>>>>>> ICT stuff are supposed to be fully functional within months (not years)
>>>>>> after the groundwork has been laid down, lest they become obsoleted by
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So far, what's going on in Konza??
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 14:41 Sam Oduor <sam.oduor at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Personally I do not think it was a white elephant; great ideas mature
>>>>>>> over the long term -> cant take 10-50 years.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rome was not built on a single day - the project needs support from
>>>>>>> techies like us and investors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Konza being of National interest should be a phased 10 - 20 - 30 - 40
>>>>>>> - 50 - 60 .... year planned development approach.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Partly I would blame the land/property rush experienced in Kenya btw
>>>>>>> 2009 - 2012 ; guys inflated prices and no one was there to regulate -
>>>>>>> this might have had negative effects some investors planning to go in
>>>>>>> considering investors look at ROI which is key to any investment. I
>>>>>>> cannot see the math of buying land for 50k and selling it at 800k ->
>>>>>>> this was obviously not sustainable; where does such capital come from
>>>>>>> ? Virtual loans ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Konza and many other projects are still very viable in Kenya and I
>>>>>>> have high hopes my only plea is for the Govt to be at the core of
>>>>>>> things like Land, Property and Infrastructure from unjustifiable
>>>>>>> exploits -> this way it will encourage investors to settle creating
>>>>>>> more Jobs which equates to good security, a healthy and sustainable
>>>>>>> economic growth.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [image]
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:06 PM Odhiambo Washington via kictanet
>>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what activities are going on at the famed Konza City
>>>>>>>> or it's one of those big white elephants??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Brian Gitonga Marete shared a post.
>>>>>>>> 12 hrs ·
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It was obvious that Konza City was a con job from the get go.
>>>>>>>> Concentrations of industrial excellence do not sprout up suddenly
>>>>>>>> just because physical buildings and infrastructure are around. That
>>>>>>>> is not the bottleneck, and anyone can provide that. The real battles
>>>>>>>> of realizing something like the proposed Konza city are elsewhere.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>>>>>>>> Nairobi,KE
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