[kictanet] The sale of .ORG

Wed Dec 4 10:23:36 EAT 2019

Barrack

Interesting. Great that you bring up the KeNIC issue. During the AGM
certain promises were made about transparency, bringing the community more
into the organization etc.

I wonder where we are at on that?

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On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 10:03 AM Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
wrote:

> @Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
>
>
> https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2019/12/the-sale-of-pir-the-internet-society-board-perspective/
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.internetsociety.org%2Fblog%2F2019%2F12%2Fthe-sale-of-pir-the-internet-society-board-perspective%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFNkWEFb0gVDzY0vxAUzkybewyqyg>
>
> This is a very interesting transaction that brings into play economic
> aspects of the Domain Name Industry. Our very own @KENIC
> <admin at kenic.or.ke> will soon be worth USD 1B. Are we prepared for that
> season. Do we have safeguards that will ensure it continues to serve the
> Public interest?
>
>
> Back to PIR
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:04 PM Liz Orembo via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> @Lordmwesh,  history has it that it won the auction and was awarded .Org
>> because of its public interest outfit.
>>
>> Check this out
>> http://www.ahfb2000.com/threads/1068-Verisign-loses-org?p=5368&viewfull=1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 19:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Mwendwa
>>>
>>> I see your point.
>>>
>>> I just have one more question:-
>>>
>>> Who owns ISOC? That answer should put this conversation to rest. And
>>> were the owners consulted? :-)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mwendwa Kivuva <
>>> Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of course reading Kieren McCarthy's articles will never give a balanced
>>>> view. He looks at things from the most cynical perspective.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we have been following the debate keenly.
>>>>
>>>> Ali, here is ICANN's allegedly response
>>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/30/icann-says-it-does-not-have-authority-over-org-transaction/
>>>>
>>>> And you cannot really compare the sale as selling a public playground.
>>>> The .org was owned 100% by PIR and in extension ISOC. It is not owned by
>>>> communities, neither is it owned by non profits. Don't let names like Ethos
>>>> Capital or Public Interest Registry fool you. It is all commercial. ISOC
>>>> won a competitive bid to manage the .org in 2003, and they have ultimate
>>>> authority over how they profit from it.
>>>>
>>>> Here I some good reading on the debacle:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The interesting connection between the .Org deal and ICANN
>>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/13/the-interesting-connection-between-the-org-deal-and-icann/
>>>>
>>>> 2. Ethos paid $1.135 billion for .Org
>>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/29/ethos-paid-1-135-billion-for-org/
>>>>
>>>> 3. ISOC CEO repeats the registry competition fallacy
>>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/26/isoc-ceo-repeats-the-registry-competition-fallacy/
>>>>
>>>> 4. ISOC chapter breaks ranks, criticizes deal to sell .Org
>>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/27/isoc-chapter-breaks-ranks-criticizes-deal-to-sell-org/
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 14:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sidney
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for sharing. This is akin to selling public land assigned for
>>>>> public good to a private developer.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is going on? And what is ICANN's response to this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: +254 713 601113
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:12 PM Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Have you all be keeping tabs on the sale of the the .org TLD?
>>>>>> Catch up here:
>>>>>> Internet world despairs as non-profit .org sold for $$$$ to private
>>>>>> equity firm, price caps axed:
>>>>>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/
>>>>>> Please take some time to oppose this here: https://savedotorg.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Sidney
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Twitter:* @princelySid <https://twitter.com/princelySid> | *Web: *
>>>>>> sidneyochieng.co.ke
>>>>>> *Skype: *sidney.ochieng | *Github:* princelySid
>>>>>> <https://github.com/princelySid>
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