[kictanet] The sale of .ORG

Wed Dec 4 11:02:20 EAT 2019

Hi all,

We have accountability mechanisms in place, albeit imperfect at times. The London office of ARTICLE 19 had been working with PIR to do an assessment in January 2020 anyway. This is a good opportunity to enable the voluntary principles of the UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights.

We have been encouraging g+ccTLDs to do these assessments. The KeNIC community could encourage the same to bring some concrete action to what was discussed at the last AGM.

For reference on the dot org sale: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ne8agb/the-quest-to-save-org-from-being-ruined-by-private-equity

-Mallory

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> On 4 Dec 2019, at 07:25, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> Barrack
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> Interesting. Great that you bring up the KeNIC issue. During the AGM certain promises were made about transparency, bringing the community more into the organization etc. 
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> I wonder where we are at on that?
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> Regards
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> Ali Hussein
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>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 10:03 AM Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>> @Ali Hussein
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>> https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2019/12/the-sale-of-pir-the-internet-society-board-perspective/ 
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>> This is a very interesting transaction that brings into play economic aspects of the Domain Name Industry. Our very own @KENIC will soon be worth USD 1B. Are we prepared for that season. Do we have safeguards that will ensure it continues to serve the Public interest?
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>> Back to PIR
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>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:04 PM Liz Orembo via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>> @Lordmwesh,  history has it that it won the auction and was awarded .Org because of its public interest outfit.
>>> 
>>> Check this out http://www.ahfb2000.com/threads/1068-Verisign-loses-org?p=5368&viewfull=1
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>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 19:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>> Mwendwa
>>>> 
>>>> I see your point. 
>>>> 
>>>> I just have one more question:-
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>>>> Who owns ISOC? That answer should put this conversation to rest. And were the owners consulted? :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Ali Hussein
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>>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>>>>> Of course reading Kieren McCarthy's articles will never give a balanced view. He looks at things from the most cynical perspective.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, we have been following the debate keenly. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ali, here is ICANN's allegedly response   https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/30/icann-says-it-does-not-have-authority-over-org-transaction/
>>>>> 
>>>>> And you cannot really compare the sale as selling a public playground. The .org was owned 100% by PIR and in extension ISOC. It is not owned by communities, neither is it owned by non profits. Don't let names like Ethos Capital or Public Interest Registry fool you. It is all commercial. ISOC won a competitive bid to manage the .org in 2003, and they have ultimate authority over how they profit from it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here I some good reading on the debacle:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. The interesting connection between the .Org deal and ICANN https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/13/the-interesting-connection-between-the-org-deal-and-icann/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Ethos paid $1.135 billion for .Org https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/29/ethos-paid-1-135-billion-for-org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. ISOC CEO repeats the registry competition fallacy https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/26/isoc-ceo-repeats-the-registry-competition-fallacy/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. ISOC chapter breaks ranks, criticizes deal to sell .Org https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/27/isoc-chapter-breaks-ranks-criticizes-deal-to-sell-org/
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 14:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>> Sidney
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. This is akin to selling public land assigned for public good to a private developer. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What is going on? And what is ICANN's response to this? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Ali Hussein
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>>>>>> Tel: +254 713 601113
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>>>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:12 PM Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Have you all be keeping tabs on the sale of the the .org TLD? 
>>>>>>> Catch up here:
>>>>>>> Internet world despairs as non-profit .org sold for $$$$ to private equity firm, price caps axed: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/
>>>>>>> Please take some time to oppose this here: https://savedotorg.org/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Sidney
>>>>>>> 
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