[kictanet] The sale of .ORG

Wed Dec 4 10:03:04 EAT 2019

@Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>

https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2019/12/the-sale-of-pir-the-internet-society-board-perspective/
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This is a very interesting transaction that brings into play economic
aspects of the Domain Name Industry. Our very own @KENIC <admin at kenic.or.ke>
will soon be worth USD 1B. Are we prepared for that season. Do we have
safeguards that will ensure it continues to serve the Public interest?

Back to PIR

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:04 PM Liz Orembo via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> @Lordmwesh,  history has it that it won the auction and was awarded .Org
> because of its public interest outfit.
>
> Check this out
> http://www.ahfb2000.com/threads/1068-Verisign-loses-org?p=5368&viewfull=1
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 19:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Mwendwa
>>
>> I see your point.
>>
>> I just have one more question:-
>>
>> Who owns ISOC? That answer should put this conversation to rest. And were
>> the owners consulted? :-)
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>>
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>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mwendwa Kivuva <
>> Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Of course reading Kieren McCarthy's articles will never give a balanced
>>> view. He looks at things from the most cynical perspective.
>>>
>>> Yes, we have been following the debate keenly.
>>>
>>> Ali, here is ICANN's allegedly response
>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/30/icann-says-it-does-not-have-authority-over-org-transaction/
>>>
>>> And you cannot really compare the sale as selling a public playground.
>>> The .org was owned 100% by PIR and in extension ISOC. It is not owned by
>>> communities, neither is it owned by non profits. Don't let names like Ethos
>>> Capital or Public Interest Registry fool you. It is all commercial. ISOC
>>> won a competitive bid to manage the .org in 2003, and they have ultimate
>>> authority over how they profit from it.
>>>
>>> Here I some good reading on the debacle:
>>>
>>> 1. The interesting connection between the .Org deal and ICANN
>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/13/the-interesting-connection-between-the-org-deal-and-icann/
>>>
>>> 2. Ethos paid $1.135 billion for .Org
>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/29/ethos-paid-1-135-billion-for-org/
>>>
>>> 3. ISOC CEO repeats the registry competition fallacy
>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/26/isoc-ceo-repeats-the-registry-competition-fallacy/
>>>
>>> 4. ISOC chapter breaks ranks, criticizes deal to sell .Org
>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/27/isoc-chapter-breaks-ranks-criticizes-deal-to-sell-org/
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 14:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sidney
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing. This is akin to selling public land assigned for
>>>> public good to a private developer.
>>>>
>>>> What is going on? And what is ICANN's response to this?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tel: +254 713 601113
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:12 PM Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Have you all be keeping tabs on the sale of the the .org TLD?
>>>>> Catch up here:
>>>>> Internet world despairs as non-profit .org sold for $$$$ to private
>>>>> equity firm, price caps axed:
>>>>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/
>>>>> Please take some time to oppose this here: https://savedotorg.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sidney
>>>>>
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