[kictanet] Access Gaps: What would it take? A proposal

Tue May 29 08:30:28 EAT 2018

Barrack, If you are a small player in the Internet and data market in Kenya
you know how punitive local rates are and the market is an oligopoly where
prices have been "fixed"
What Collins is suggesting is a better and efficient use of the existing
fiber infrastructure specifically NOFBI.

We have so much idle fiber cores going into their 10th year but the cost to
access them is too expensive for smaller players to take it up as the main
players opt to dig up more fiber every year due to the costs of leasing.

The Government (both National and counties) are not keen to change the
environment so we need to push the narrative of using NOFBI as it was
intended and open up the market.

Regards,
Job Muriuki,

Skype: heviejob

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Hi Ali,
>
> ImHO we are discussing a public interest issue that might need a boost
> possibly from the Universal Service fund. Most of the ISPs that peer at
> KIXP are commercial entities that do so for commercial reasons not
> necessarily from a public interest perspective. During the ICT week, CA
> actually confirmed that the statistics we receive are normally population
> centric as opposed to being based on landmass. As infrastructure starts
> opening up the country such as the SGR, the International Airport in Isiolo
> , the Dual Carriage way to Mombasa, and rural electrification, people will
> start moving back to this areas that lack coverage and were hitherto
> considered unprofitable. I am yet to fully understand the long term
> business case of this projects funded by the Universal Service Fund and
> would like colleagues likes Adam to weigh in on the subject but it is my
> humble opinion that Community owned networks might be the way to go. Maybe
> Collins can share how they are surviving in Mashinani. I know the Telcos
> will claim that their network coverage extends to 90 % of Kenyans but we
> now know that this 90 % is in Nairobi, Mombasa and Kisumu, we need to
> change the narrative. Ensure the unconnected are connected and that the
> costs of the connections are low by all means.
>
> Regards
>
> On Tue, 29 May 2018 06:44 Ali Hussein via kictanet, <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Collins
>>
>> Just curious. Is there a regulatory bottleneck that would need to be
>> unlocked? Reason I'm asking is why do we need to wait for the govt to
>> mandate anyone? Can't KIXP get on with it? Do we really need 'permission'
>> for this?
>>
>> Regards
>>
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>> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>>> @Ali & Others.
>>>
>>> What does it take to push and actualize this? My suggestion would
>>> actually follow a very simple approach:
>>>
>>> a) GOK, through CA mandates KIXP and other exchanges to provide
>>> countrywide service with presence at each of the 47 County headquarters as
>>> initial POPs.
>>>
>>> b) Tier 1’s bid to operate and maintain redundant dark fibers to serve
>>> these IXPs, so that those IXP’s have multiple backhauls via multiple
>>> vendors.
>>>
>>> c) IXP's run an open access platform, offering standardized “Port
>>> charges” for 1G, 10G, 100G….. at each of these pops.
>>>
>>> d) Tier 2 and ASP’s then pick this traffic from any of these points.
>>>
>>> Immediate benefits:
>>>
>>> a) IP transit in Kilifi @400 bob a meg. :-) Instead of current IP
>>> transit at EADC at 400 plus local loop at KES 5000. *Packets cost
>>> eleven times more from Nairobi to Kilifi than they cost from Nairobi to
>>> Guangzhou. That cartel needs to die for affordable access to be realised.*
>>>
>>> b) Tier 3’s will have room to actually grow and become Tier 2 and Tier
>>> 1.
>>>
>>> c) Players will be forced to innovate to remain relevant, resulting in
>>> better Value for money.
>>>
>>> d) Fibers will be utilised way more efficiently. Fewer fibers also means
>>> less downtime. e.g a single fiber
>>>
>>> On 28 May 2018, 4:14 PM +0300, I.kasyoki--- via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>, wrote:
>>>
>>> Eagerly following on this as well.
>>>
>>> This will definitely be a game changer in regards to service penetration
>>> to marginalised areas.
>>>
>>> [image: Syokinet Solutions] <https://htmlsig.com/t/000001C1QEB7>
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>>> *Ian Kasyoki* /
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>>> ---- On Mon, 28 May 2018 11:52:57 +0300 *kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>* wrote ----
>>>
>>> I Second Collins on this approach.
>>> Considering NOFBI is state funded (unless am wrong) so it's the Kenyan
>>> taxes funding it and that KIXP via Tespok be given the mandate to offer
>>> ports at fixed rates accessible anywhere the NOFBI fiber terminates.
>>>
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>>> Regards,
>>> Job Muriuki,
>>>
>>> Skype: heviejob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I have a rather interesting suggestion to the powers, power brokers and
>>> brokers that be. This is with regard to flattening the access environment
>>> countrywide. If you are at CA: Indulge me for a moment.
>>>
>>> 1) KIXP has proven over time that it is possible, from a technical
>>> standpoint to significantly drive traffic locally and in an organized
>>> manner. This works well where there is an XP, in the current scheme of
>>> things: Nairobi, and if TKL doesnt pull the plug, Msa.
>>>
>>> 2) If KIXP were operated like a distributed network, with switches in
>>> Kilifi, Mombasa, Garsen, Garissa, Thika, and all major towns in the
>>> country, so that providers would visit the nearest exchange point and get a
>>> port, loop charges would all but disappear.
>>>
>>> 3) All thats needed is for GOK to give KIXP a dark fiber pair into all
>>> major towns, and in exchange, for KIXP to offer 1G, 10G, 100G, etc at
>>> subsidized rates in any of these towns, and for NOFBI hosts to be “strongly
>>> asked” not to strong arm entrants by levying crazy cross connect or other
>>> barriers to entry.
>>>
>>> Maoni?
>>>
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