[kictanet] To save CA from bullies, restore its autonomy and independence

Fri Jan 26 00:29:27 EAT 2018

We are not a perfect society, neither are we anywhere near average. But
when smart people, especially the youth start to despair, it's all downhill
from there. The youth are the hope of a society, the fulcrum whose
foundation the nation revolves.

I've been trying to compare development record and hope of a society of
serikali ya wazee (2003-2013), with serikali ya vijana (2013-20xx), and the
difference is wide.

Despare is literally taking your children down the sewer.

I still believe Africa is rising, even if not your Africa, mine is rising.
And the future is bright.

On Jan 25, 2018 10:24 PM, "Tracy Kadesa Adolwa via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> There's a lot of truth in what Joseph is saying, I don't think that he
> means that unqualified people are appointed all the time, the point is, you
> may be qualified, yes, but you are not appointed for those reasons, you are
> appointed to fulfill some hidden agenda, we can't run away  from this
> reality.
>
> -Regards
>
>
> Tracy Kadesa,
> LL.B ,University of Nairobi.
> Dip KSL
>  legalwalk.wordpress.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Bwana PS,
>>
>> Thank you for stating your part. Feedback is always important.  I will
>> wait for the board's report. Continue with the good work that you are doing.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On 24 January 2018 at 21:34, sammyitemere--- via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you guys unfortunately this far from the truth a conversation will
>>> help clarify the really issues at CA. But because the matter is being
>>> handled by the board l rest my case.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Sent from my Huawei Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] To save CA from bullies, restore its autonomy
>>> and independence
>>> From: Ali Hussein via kictanet
>>> To: sammyitemere at gmail.com
>>> CC: Ali Hussein ,KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>>
>>>
>>> Grace
>>>
>>> Thanks for that trip down memory lane.. Lest we forget.. :-)
>>>
>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>
>>> *Principal*
>>>
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>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:09 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <
>>> nmutungu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kelvin,
>>>> Please refer to the thread "independent Communications Commission of
>>>> Kenya" that gives diverse views on what independence means (for example,
>>>> functional and financial independence) and how in the end, the
>>>> communications law was amended. This background supports the points that
>>>> Jaindi is raising that interdependence between the Authority and Ministry
>>>> should only be at policy and not financial level.
>>>> Thread starts here https://lists.kictanet.or
>>>> .ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/031757.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Jan 2018 10:48 am, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>> I like your response. The interplay between independence and
>>>>> interdependence. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I fully agree with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have one issue though and this is one of *Corporate Governance*.
>>>>> The monies we are talking about are not small change in the scheme of
>>>>> things. A million here and 25 million there..This adds up.
>>>>>
>>>>> No organization worth its salt should be run 'Kiholela' like that.
>>>>> With all due respect to the Mandarins at the MOICT. They should know
>>>>> better. The right way to do things is to sit with the CA and have a
>>>>> discussion at the end of every year as to which activities they would like
>>>>> CA to fund. These then should be consolidated and ExComm (Executive
>>>>> Committee of the Senior Management Team at CA) presents this to the Board
>>>>> of Directors for ratification and it becomes a budget item and above board.
>>>>>
>>>>> The CA is a critical institution and the goings on there smack of
>>>>> machinations to control the billions that CA has in its budget. It's wrong
>>>>> for MOICT to treat the CA budget as its personal piggy bank/slush fund. The
>>>>> MOICT has a vote. Let it live within its means like we all do. And in case
>>>>> they are unable to the paragraph before this should be a guideline on how
>>>>> to go about it so that no one is exposed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, I also think what the Director General did, if the reporting
>>>>> has any truth to it is wrong. He simply should not have the power to
>>>>> approve extra-judicial budget items. This leaves him vulnerable later to
>>>>> manipulation. Let there be clear procedures on how these things are done.
>>>>> At the Boards that I sit in that in itself is a firing offence. Let us not
>>>>> expose our heads of government agencies to such manipulation. It is akin to
>>>>> abuse of power by MOICT. It simply is not acceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Principal*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: +254 713 601113
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chiromo Road, Westlands,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are
>>>>> purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
>>>>> organizations that I work with.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am eagerly waiting for the report of the audit that is being
>>>>>> currently conducted. This and the responses thereafter will give a clear
>>>>>> indication of the situation at the CA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the letters regarding the request of funds, I do not find any
>>>>>> issue with this. The only condition is that these funds must be accounted
>>>>>> for and even better a report written about the official activities that
>>>>>> were attended to by whom, where and also what returns are to be gained from
>>>>>> the engagements. And further follow up until the intended goals are
>>>>>> achieved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our institutions need to be independent, yes. They are also
>>>>>> inter-dependent. Having the PSs of the ICT or other Ministries does not
>>>>>> have to be bad thing. It in fact can serve as a way to expedite decision
>>>>>> making and enhance cooperation - basically doing away with
>>>>>> inter-institutional bureaucracy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 January 2018 at 13:06, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Summary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Surely, somebody must be made to answer for those letters.
>>>>>>>    - This is the sector that gave Kenya global leadership in mobile
>>>>>>>    banking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/To-save-CA-from-bullie
>>>>>>> s-restore-its-autonomy-and-independence/440808-4275382-a055q
>>>>>>> 6/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS. Its sad to see what is happening at CA because we debated
>>>>>>> extensively on this list the process that gave it its autonomy. I am
>>>>>>> confident the team at the helm of the ministry has what it takes to put us
>>>>>>> back on the correct path.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Barrack O. Otieno
>>>>>>> +254721325277 <+254%20721%20325277>
>>>>>>> +254733206359 <+254%20733%20206359>
>>>>>>> Skype: barrack.otieno
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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