<div dir="auto">We are not a perfect society, neither are we anywhere near average. But when smart people, especially the youth start to despair, it's all downhill from there. The youth are the hope of a society, the fulcrum whose foundation the nation revolves.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I've been trying to compare development record and hope of a society of serikali ya wazee (2003-2013), with serikali ya vijana (2013-20xx), and the difference is wide. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Despare is literally taking your children down the sewer.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I still believe Africa is rising, even if not your Africa, mine is rising. And the future is bright.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 25, 2018 10:24 PM, "Tracy Kadesa Adolwa via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">There's a lot of truth in what Joseph is saying, I don't think that he means that unqualified people are appointed all the time, the point is, you may be qualified, yes, but you are not appointed for those reasons, you are appointed to fulfill some hidden agenda, we can't run away from this reality.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>-Regards</div><div> </div><div><br></div><div>Tracy Kadesa,</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">LL.B ,University of Nairobi.</span><br></div><div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Dip KSL</div></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"> </span><a href="http://legalwalk.wordpress.com" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">legalwalk.wordpress.com</a><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Bwana PS,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Thank you for stating your part. Feedback is always important. I will wait for the board's report. Continue with the good work that you are doing.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Regards,</div><div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Kevin</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 January 2018 at 21:34, sammyitemere--- via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thank you guys unfortunately this far from the truth a conversation will help clarify the really issues at CA. But because the matter is being handled by the board l rest my case.<br>Regards<br><br>Sent from my Huawei Mobile<div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169HOEnZb"><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169h5"><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585quote" style="line-height:1.5"><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] To save CA from bullies, restore its autonomy and independence<br>From: Ali Hussein via kictanet <u></u><br>To: <a href="mailto:sammyitemere@gmail.com" target="_blank">sammyitemere@gmail.com</a><br>CC: Ali Hussein <u></u>,KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <u></u><br><br><br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Grace</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Thanks for that trip down memory lane.. Lest we forget.. :-)</div><img style="display:none!important" height="1" width="1"><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:09 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nmutungu@gmail.com" target="_blank">nmutungu@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Kelvin, </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please refer to the thread "independent Communications Commission of Kenya" that gives diverse views on what independence means (for example, functional and financial independence) and how in the end, the communications law was amended. This background supports the points that Jaindi is raising that interdependence between the Authority and Ministry should only be at policy and not financial level. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thread starts here <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/031757.html" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or<wbr>.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-No<wbr>vember/031757.html</a></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585h5">On 24 Jan 2018 10:48 am, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585h5"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">@Kevin</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">I like your response. The interplay between independence and interdependence. :-) </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">I fully agree with you.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">I have one issue though and this is one of <b>Corporate Governance</b>. The monies we are talking about are not small change in the scheme of things. A million here and 25 million there..This adds up.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">No organization worth its salt should be run 'Kiholela' like that. With all due respect to the Mandarins at the MOICT. They should know better. The right way to do things is to sit with the CA and have a discussion at the end of every year as to which activities they would like CA to fund. These then should be consolidated and ExComm (Executive Committee of the Senior Management Team at CA) presents this to the Board of Directors for ratification and it becomes a budget item and above board.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">The CA is a critical institution and the goings on there smack of machinations to control the billions that CA has in its budget. It's wrong for MOICT to treat the CA budget as its personal piggy bank/slush fund. The MOICT has a vote. Let it live within its means like we all do. And in case they are unable to the paragraph before this should be a guideline on how to go about it so that no one is exposed.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Lastly, I also think what the Director General did, if the reporting has any truth to it is wrong. He simply should not have the power to approve extra-judicial budget items. This leaves him vulnerable later to manipulation. Let there be clear procedures on how these things are done. At the Boards that I sit in that in itself is a firing offence. Let us not expose our heads of government agencies to such manipulation. It is akin to abuse of power by MOICT. It simply is not acceptable.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">I am eagerly waiting for the report of the audit that is being currently conducted. This and the responses thereafter will give a clear indication of the situation at the CA.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">As for the letters regarding the request of funds, I do not find any issue with this. The only condition is that these funds must be accounted for and even better a report written about the official activities that were attended to by whom, where and also what returns are to be gained from the engagements. And further follow up until the intended goals are achieved.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Our institutions need to be independent, yes. They are also inter-dependent. Having the PSs of the ICT or other Ministries does not have to be bad thing. It in fact can serve as a way to expedite decision making and enhance cooperation - basically doing away with inter-institutional bureaucracy. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Regards,<br></div><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Kevin</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298h5">On 24 January 2018 at 13:06, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298h5"><div dir="ltr">Listers,<br><br><section class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714m_6930035078382893289gmail-article-sidebar">
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<h4>In Summary</h4>
<div><ul><li>Surely, somebody must be made to answer for those letters.</li><li>This is the sector that gave Kenya global leadership in mobile banking.</li></ul></div></section>
<a href="https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/To-save-CA-from-bullies-restore-its-autonomy-and-independence/440808-4275382-a055q6/index.html" target="_blank">https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/<wbr>opinion/To-save-CA-from-bullie<wbr>s-restore-its-autonomy-and-ind<wbr>ependence/440808-4275382-a055q<wbr>6/index.html</a><br><br></section><section class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714m_6930035078382893289gmail-article-sidebar">PS. Its sad to see what is happening at CA because we debated extensively on this list the process that gave it its autonomy. I am confident the team at the helm of the ministry has what it takes to put us back on the correct path.<br><br></section><section class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714m_6930035078382893289gmail-article-sidebar">Regards<span class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></section><span class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br>-- <br><div class="m_8392614089065308870m_-399360667841772169m_-1408208878213850585m_7239475682921100282gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714m_6930035078382893289gmail_signature">Barrack O. Otieno<br><a href="tel:+254%20721%20325277" value="+254721325277" target="_blank">+254721325277</a><br><a href="tel:+254%20733%20206359" value="+254733206359" target="_blank">+254733206359</a><br>Skype: barrack.otieno<br>PGP ID: 0x2611D86A<br> <br><br><br><br></div>
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