[kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS

Mon Jul 3 14:11:02 EAT 2017

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I am captivated by the tagline here " Protecting the largest shared global resource".
Stakeholders are ready to engage with governments on other resources, how governments distribute then or facilitate for this.

The deliberations at AIS on shutdowns and the concerns by internet stakeholders in the view of agitating African governments and possibly making shutdowns worse, makes the discussions on shutdowns a PR gimmick.
I suspect there is a generation that is coming up that has no time for this rhetoric and as long as they cannot have their internet resource assured, they will circumvent the system, create their own internet or develop another gateway - leaving the said internet to those busy protecting it as it is.

Be blessed.
Regards/Wangari

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Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".

    On Tuesday, 27 June 2017, 21:01, Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

 Good evening Listers,Kudos for the interestingengagements we had today that brought to the fore a number of important issuesregarding Internet Shutdowns . This is summarized (based on popularsentiments) as follows:a)  Isthere a real fear of this happening in Kenya?There is a realfear of Internet Shutdowns during the election period (either complete orpartial). There seems to be double speak from the government (the CS and CAKgiving contradicting statements).b)  Isthere any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?The basis ofthe shutdown could be brought about by public order justification for instance:to maintain public order as well as initiatives such as NCIC’s gadgets tomonitor hate mongers. c)  Whatare the implications on the electoral process?Transmissionof results would definitely be affected and the said VPN could equally becompromised.d)  Whatoptions do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? The public have access to a widerange of tools such as VPNs that can easily be used to circumvent any blocksput to deny them access to the Internet.
Open issues that arise for furtherdiscussion are:-      Couldan Internet shutdown orders in Kenya be quashed by the courts,?bearing in mindthat the constitution empowers the common mwananchi?-      AreInternet balkanization initiatives by the bigger brothers like China and Russiaa form of Internet shutdown?-      Should providers adopt net neutrality argument of investing in technologies to zero rate, to allow deep packet inspection? This equally raises privacy issues.-        Is the government preparing Kenyans for an imminent shutdown?
Thank you all once again for the lively discussion on Internet shutdowns. Kindly note that the door is not closed and we can always revisit this very important subject.Over to you Kanini and Joy for the second day's discussion (Looking forward to it) .  Best regards,Ronald Ojino
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Deborah Wanjugu via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

I believe it is because Dr. Wangusi mentioned wide area networks quite a bit during his session. 
Deborah
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Watila Alex <awatila at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Thanks,Is the transmission system we are discussing based on this tender?  TENDER NO IEBC/33/2016-2017:SUPPLY, DELIVERY, INSTALLATION,IMPLEMENTATION AND COMMISSIONING OFWIDE AREA NETWORK IN TWO HUNDRED ANDNINETY (290) NEW LOCATIONS, EIGHTEEN (18)EXISTING SITES AND PROVISION OF DEDICATEDINTERNET SERVICES If it is, it is based on internet and would be affected by an internet shutdown Regards, Alex  From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awati la=yahoo.co.uk at lists.kictanet. or.ke] On Behalf Of Deborah Wanjugu via kictanet
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Hello, I attended the National Election Conference which was hosted by IEBC earlier this month. Dr. Wangusi was a panelist in one of the sessions and I asked him to assure Kenyans that there would be no censorship or interruption of communication on the day of elections. He stated that there would be no such interruption. He also stated that election results would be transmitted on a VPN which would see that they do not touch on the bandwidth we would use on the day.  I hope this helps in the discussions.  Deborah On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
Looking at election shutdowns in Africa last year, governments (incumbents) gave the rationale that it was to maintain public order/national security. If you consider the problem from this point of view, there is a high probability of a shutdown, at least a partial one in Kenya. Is a shutdown the right way to maintain public order? NoI would hope that the government can come out and clearly allay these fears about a looming shutdown.   2017-06-27 14:46 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >:
Did I hear manual backup? On 27 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m., "Walubengo J via kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
@Alex, I am tempted to para-phrase your question. Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown? But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission) I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-) walu.From: Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Good afternoon,If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected? Regards, From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awati la=yahoo.co.uk at lists.kictanet. or.ke] On Behalf Of Ronald Ojino via kictanet
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Subject: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Greetings Listers,Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation.It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns:a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?c) What are the implications on the electoral process?d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?Looking forward to your active participation.Best regards,Ronald Ojino 
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