[kictanet] Proposed Film Bill

Mon Oct 10 09:26:39 EAT 2016

Thank you for flagging this Mildred.
We the public and those in the interest of the public must organise- this
is a bad trend.

Regards,

2016-10-10 5:31 GMT+03:00 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>:

> Paul
>
> Point of correction.
>
> The ICT Practitioners bill hasn't yet flopped. Stakeholders are still
> engaging..
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> On 9 Oct 2016, at 10:28 PM, Paul Korir via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> This has become the norm in Kenya now. The trend has become to licence
> activities which never used to be licensed.
>
> I remember the Science, Technology and Innovation Act of 2015 (I think)
> which became law and requires licences for any kind of research. In other
> words, you cannot do research as part of your business without getting a
> licence.
>
> There was an attempt to form the Kenya Accreditation Agency (another
> privately sponsored bill by Hon. Duale) which failed.
>
> We recently had ICT Practitioners Bill which flopped.
>
> (I’m sure there are many others which do not directly impact me.)
>
> Now this… it’s copy cat scheme to privatise rights.
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>
> Dr. Paul Korir, PhD
> *Ordnung muß sein*
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>   1. Proposed Film Bill (Mildred Achoch)
>   2. Re: Proposed Film Bill (Tony White)
>   3. Re: Proposed Film Bill (Mildred Achoch)
>   4. Re: Proposed Film Bill (waudo siganga)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 18:36:41 +0300
> From: Mildred Achoch <mildandred at gmail.com>
> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill
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> Dear Listers,
>
> There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016* at the
> Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed film bill
> from 8.30am.
>
> Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and contacts of
> at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum. I was wondering
> whether Kictanet is aware of this?
>
> The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT community,
> including ISP providers.
>
> As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in the
> proposed bill. Here is just one example:
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Mildred Achoch.
>
> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
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> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:02:52 +0300
> From: Tony White <tony.mzungu at gmail.com>
> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill
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> Mildred,
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> This?
>
> kfcb.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DRAFT-BILL-KFCB-21-7-Draft-10.pdf
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> Cheers,
> Tony
>
>
> On 09/10/2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016* at the
> Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed film bill
> from 8.30am.
>
> Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and contacts of
> at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum. I was wondering
> whether Kictanet is aware of this?
>
> The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT community,
> including ISP providers.
>
> As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in the
> proposed bill. Here is just one example:
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Mildred Achoch.
>
> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> --
> Tony White
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:30:54 +0300
> From: Mildred Achoch <mildandred at gmail.com>
> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill
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> Dear Tony,
>
> Yes, it's the one. Of special interest to ISPs is section 39.
>
> Regards,
> Mildred Achoch.
>
> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Tony White via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Mildred,
>
> This?
>
> kfcb.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DRAFT-BILL-KFCB-21-7-Draft-10.pdf
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
>
> On 09/10/2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016* at the
> Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed film
>
> bill
>
> from 8.30am.
>
> Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and contacts
>
> of
>
> at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum. I was wondering
> whether Kictanet is aware of this?
>
> The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT
>
> community,
>
> including ISP providers.
>
> As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in the
> proposed bill. Here is just one example:
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Mildred Achoch.
>
> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> --
> Tony White
>
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> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:44:49 +0300
> From: waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>
> To: Mildred Achoch via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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> Interesting.
>
> 1. I thought a KFCB already existed, or which is that one of Mutau who
>   has been having problems with US visa and suppressing and opposing
>   LGBT rights and atheists?
> 2. It's like an afterthought that someone decided to throw in the
>   computer games. Is one supposed to obtain a licence to write or
>   create these games like with films. The part of the document that
>   deals with films and stage plays substantively does not deal with
>   computer games.
> 3. The part about ISPs is thrown in by someone who is completely
>   ignorant. ISPs do not deal with content; they don't even see it
>   (and they should not!). An ISP is just a conduit or facilitator. Do
>   these people expect an ISP to employ people to screen content of
>   their clients?
> 4. If we are not careful Kenya will start going backwards as more people
>   come up with all kinds of proposed legislation; what is there to stop
>   film makers moving to neighbouring countries and taking all those
>   jobs with them?
> 5. Speak up!
>
> W.
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016, at 09:30 PM, Mildred Achoch via kictanet wrote:
>
> Dear Tony,
>
> Yes, it's the one. Of special interest to ISPs is section 39.
>
> Regards, Mildred Achoch.
>
> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Tony White via kictanet
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>
> Mildred,
>
> This?
>
> kfcb.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DRAFT-BILL-KFCB-21-7-
> Draft-10.pdf
>
> Cheers, Tony
>
>
> On 09/10/2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016*
> at the
> Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed
> film bill
> from 8.30am.
>
> Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and
> contacts of at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum.
> I was wondering whether Kictanet is aware of this?
>
> The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT
> community, including ISP providers.
>
> As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in
> the proposed bill. Here is just one example:
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Mildred Achoch.
>
> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> --
> Tony White
>
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