[kictanet] Proposed Film Bill

Ali Hussein ali at hussein.me.ke
Mon Oct 10 05:31:16 EAT 2016


Paul

Point of correction.

The ICT Practitioners bill hasn't yet flopped. Stakeholders are still engaging..

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> On 9 Oct 2016, at 10:28 PM, Paul Korir via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> This has become the norm in Kenya now. The trend has become to licence activities which never used to be licensed.
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> I remember the Science, Technology and Innovation Act of 2015 (I think) which became law and requires licences for any kind of research. In other words, you cannot do research as part of your business without getting a licence.
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> There was an attempt to form the Kenya Accreditation Agency (another privately sponsored bill by Hon. Duale) which failed.
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> We recently had ICT Practitioners Bill which flopped.
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> (I’m sure there are many others which do not directly impact me.)
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> Now this… it’s copy cat scheme to privatise rights.
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> Dr. Paul Korir, PhD
> Ordnung muß sein
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>> On 9 Oct 2016, at 19:46, kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>   1. Proposed Film Bill (Mildred Achoch)
>>   2. Re: Proposed Film Bill (Tony White)
>>   3. Re: Proposed Film Bill (Mildred Achoch)
>>   4. Re: Proposed Film Bill (waudo siganga)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 18:36:41 +0300
>> From: Mildred Achoch <mildandred at gmail.com>
>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill
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>> Dear Listers,
>> 
>> There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016* at the
>> Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed film bill
>> from 8.30am.
>> 
>> Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and contacts of
>> at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum. I was wondering
>> whether Kictanet is aware of this?
>> 
>> The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT community,
>> including ISP providers.
>> 
>> As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in the
>> proposed bill. Here is just one example:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Mildred Achoch.
>> 
>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
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>> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:02:52 +0300
>> From: Tony White <tony.mzungu at gmail.com>
>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill
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>> Mildred,
>> 
>> This?
>> 
>> kfcb.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DRAFT-BILL-KFCB-21-7-Draft-10.pdf
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Tony
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/10/2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet
>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>> Dear Listers,
>>> 
>>> There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016* at the
>>> Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed film bill
>>> from 8.30am.
>>> 
>>> Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and contacts of
>>> at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum. I was wondering
>>> whether Kictanet is aware of this?
>>> 
>>> The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT community,
>>> including ISP providers.
>>> 
>>> As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in the
>>> proposed bill. Here is just one example:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Mildred Achoch.
>>> 
>>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
>>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tony White
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:30:54 +0300
>> From: Mildred Achoch <mildandred at gmail.com>
>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<CADHwjVS7Hs6zarkhfQg_P9B6KtEkXadhsquQYK0T_Y5-oD+9FA at mail.gmail.com>
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>> Dear Tony,
>> 
>> Yes, it's the one. Of special interest to ISPs is section 39.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Mildred Achoch.
>> 
>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Tony White via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> 
>>> Mildred,
>>> 
>>> This?
>>> 
>>> kfcb.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DRAFT-BILL-KFCB-21-7-Draft-10.pdf
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tony
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09/10/2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>> Dear Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016* at the
>>>> Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed film
>>> bill
>>>> from 8.30am.
>>>> 
>>>> Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and contacts
>>> of
>>>> at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum. I was wondering
>>>> whether Kictanet is aware of this?
>>>> 
>>>> The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT
>>> community,
>>>> including ISP providers.
>>>> 
>>>> As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in the
>>>> proposed bill. Here is just one example:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mildred Achoch.
>>>> 
>>>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
>>>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Tony White
>>> 
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:44:49 +0300
>> From: waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>
>> To: Mildred Achoch via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill
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>> Interesting.
>> 
>> 1. I thought a KFCB already existed, or which is that one of Mutau who
>>   has been having problems with US visa and suppressing and opposing
>>   LGBT rights and atheists?
>> 2. It's like an afterthought that someone decided to throw in the
>>   computer games. Is one supposed to obtain a licence to write or
>>   create these games like with films. The part of the document that
>>   deals with films and stage plays substantively does not deal with
>>   computer games.
>> 3. The part about ISPs is thrown in by someone who is completely
>>   ignorant. ISPs do not deal with content; they don't even see it
>>   (and they should not!). An ISP is just a conduit or facilitator. Do
>>   these people expect an ISP to employ people to screen content of
>>   their clients?
>> 4. If we are not careful Kenya will start going backwards as more people
>>   come up with all kinds of proposed legislation; what is there to stop
>>   film makers moving to neighbouring countries and taking all those
>>   jobs with them?
>> 5. Speak up!
>> 
>> W.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016, at 09:30 PM, Mildred Achoch via kictanet wrote:
>>> Dear Tony,
>>> 
>>> Yes, it's the one. Of special interest to ISPs is section 39.
>>> 
>>> Regards, Mildred Achoch.
>>> 
>>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
>>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Tony White via kictanet
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Mildred,
>>>> 
>>>> This?
>>>> 
>>>> kfcb.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DRAFT-BILL-KFCB-21-7-
>>>> Draft-10.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers, Tony
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 09/10/2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet
>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016*
>>>>> at the
>>>>> Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed
>>>>> film bill
>>>>> from 8.30am.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and
>>>>> contacts of at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum.
>>>>> I was wondering whether Kictanet is aware of this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT
>>>>> community, including ISP providers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in
>>>>> the proposed bill. Here is just one example:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mildred Achoch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
>>>>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Tony White
>>>> 
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