[kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions

Wed Jan 13 17:32:39 EAT 2016

Hi,
As a new member to the list has been amazing to read the various points of
view on this matter.

My take is that i feel that regulators are losing touch with reality by
failing to engage relevant stakeholders before decisions are made. My first
concern is do we have research teams in our regulatory bodies who actually
sit and advice on modern trends before they come up with opinions which
lead to regulations? If so do they have the right people assisting them to
get the correct and relevant information? Do they engage in research to see
how other jurisdictions have handled the issues and maybe question if they
can make improvements or at least make informed decisions?

As a lawyer there is an intrinsic understanding of the fact that
regulations must be responsive to the trends of the day otherwise the law
becomes an ass(the donkey's relative).

There must be a push to ensure that there is a reasonable approach to all
issues and in my opinion the communication authority is acting like a voice
of reason. To show the levels of disconnect by the KFCB they even used an
analogy of radicalization to justify the regulation of Netflix. Someone
somewhere is clearly not doing their homework.

Yes there is a need to ensure morality but I doubt reacting like a high
handed pariah state will help. If Netflix begins to partner with local
providers then regulation will be justified however if they continue as an
over the top (OTT) service then the regulators have no jurisdiction.

Roemary Koech-Kimwatu
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On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Brian
>
> Umesema kama watu kumi. (Spoken like 10 wise men)
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> On 13 Jan 2016, at 1:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I think that one fundamental (and very important) point that most of the
> people demanding regulation for Netflix overlook is that Netflix has not
> "come to Kenya". They are not present in the country in any form or shape.
> They have simply "allowed" Kenyans access to their content - which is
> hosted outside of Kenya - in response to many years of demand. There is
> therefore no basis (legal or otherwise) for us to try impose any conditions
> on them regarding their services.
>
> Please, let us be clear what we are talking about.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Linda
>>
>> Please see my responses against your comments
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>> *Principal*
>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>
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>>
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>
>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng <lindaochieng at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have been following your discussions here and my  thoughts specifically
>>  on Netflix  and online streaming are as follows:
>>
>> One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to the
>> regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all the
>> laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they are
>> using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is the
>> only way the firm’s operations in the country can be legal. As you know,
>>  the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or
>> users of online platforms.
>>
>>
>> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and
>> dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why
>> don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top)
>> services like YouTube, Facebook video etc?
>>
>>
>> Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against
>> infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our
>> national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed  that most
>> of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as
>> suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to
>> children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have
>> access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we
>> support such content?
>>
>>
>> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide
>> Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us
>> all. We should fight it with all we have.
>>
>>
>> Three and of  even greater concern is the fact that British media reports
>> have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on these
>> platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable suspicion
>> as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in such an overt
>> manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, beyond the
>> subscription restrictions, we should ask?
>>
>>
>> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us
>> asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our
>> sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in
>> our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of
>> 'Serikali saidia'!
>>
>>
>> Four, there is   concern over  growing levels of pornographic material
>> available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The
>> source is online platforms.  This  should worry every good citizen.
>> Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of
>> content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given
>> all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of
>> content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not
>> affected by these challenges?
>>
>> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our
>> homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the
>> same script.
>>
>> As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content
>> coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. Clearly
>> then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification as
>> expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and must in
>> that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya.  Let us not be
>> against regulation without considering its benefits to our country.
>>
>>
>> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script
>> has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on
>> with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it
>> also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives
>> (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the
>> decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and
>> they really need to continue in the same vein.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Linda
>> *Amazon Tech Heights. Org*
>>
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