[kictanet] Does cashless matatu system have a regulatory framework?

Tue Nov 11 13:35:14 EAT 2014

Hi Mwendwa,

Indeed we support technology, however we need to advocate for proper
frameworks within which technology should operate otherwise the same
technology becomes a tool for injustice. We need sanity in the public
transport sector hence i agree with Walu that there is need for a
regulatory framework to safeguard the interests of all stakeholders.
In my humble opinion countries that have succeeded in implementing
such systems have excelled in this.
That said it is a step in the right direction but we could do better.

Best Regards

On 11/11/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> It's not unreasonable to have a single, mandated card for this purpose.
> New York's MetroCard is a great example (as is the Oyster Card).  Virtually
> every city I've been to has one and only one card for mass transportation.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetroCard_(New_York_City)
>
> As with most things, NYC Transit outsources most of the underlying
> infrastructure to a private company:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_Transportation_Systems
>
> As long as the margins are well defined, there is little in-house fraud,
> and the system generally works, the lack of competition isn't such a big
> deal.  The most important thing is that the numbers are published and
> audited regularly and that the underlying vendor can be replaced in the
> future (i.e. Nairobi County maintains intellectual property over key assets
> so there's no vendor lock-in beyond the contract period).
>
> -Adam
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> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Walu. You certainly ask valid questions. What comes to mind is
>> consumer protection, and ensuring data collected about consumers is not
>> used in ways that the consumer does not ascent to. I'm assuming we will
>> read the terms of service.
>>
>> I don't expect any player in the industry to be a monopoly, and certaily
>> my1963 card wil operate alongside BebaPay and AbiriaCard. What I would
>> also
>> like to see is the ability to pay with our NFC enabled debit and credit
>> cards. Consumers should have a choice.
>>
>> Cofek's appeal is mostly based on Article 10 of the constitution where
>> government is expected to involve all stakeholders holders (yes
>> multistakeholderism is here to stay) in decision making. If there was a
>> stakeholders forum, many of these questions would have been asked there.
>>
>> Well, the cashles system has worked before in Kenya hitherto with mixed
>> reactions from the commuters. I support it bearing in mind the many times
>> I've forgotten my change. As agents of changes in society, we should
>> support the initiative, and let it mature. We can learn from other
>> cities,
>> especially Transport for London which has a very successful Oyster Card.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 November 2014, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Walu,
>>>
>>> We are in interesting times, what happens to the squad fellows? They
>>> normally get a tenth of the fare for their touting. I wonder whether a
>>> feasibility study was done. The Matatu culture is too complicated ,
>>> this system would work with a more organized Nyayo Bus or KBS kind of
>>> system.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents
>>>
>>> On 11/11/14, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> wrote:
>>> > The President launched the cashless matatu payment system in style
>>> > last
>>> > week.
>>> >
>>> > Boarding a matatu from State House to the City Centre, the President
>>> used
>>> > the payment card “My1963” to pay his fare as the smiling Safaricom
>>> > CEO,
>>> Bob
>>> > Collymore, the Matatu Owners association Chairman, Simon Kimutai and
>>> > the
>>> > Cabinet Secretary for Transport and Infrastructure, Eng Michael Kamau
>>> all
>>> > watched.
>>> >
>>> > Read more @
>>> >
>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2518070/-/10vedrez/-/index.html
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------
>>> > Additionally, you can read a bare knuckle view from Cofek
>>> > ** 7 reasons why Cofek will fight to stop the #My1963 PSV's cashless
>>> payment
>>> > fraud
>>> >
>>> > The National Transport Safety Authority (NTSA) plan to go cashless on
>>> fare
>>> > payments effective December 1, 2014 though welcome cannot escape
>>> > public
>>> > scrutiny.
>>> >
>>> > Clearly, majority commuters are not ready thanks to the very poor and
>>> less
>>> > than transparent handling of the cashless fare payments for Public
>>> Service
>>> > Vehicles (PSV’s).
>>> >
>>> > If digital migration switch-off of analogue TV signal could go to the
>>> > Supreme Court, then the architects behind the so-called #My1963 fraud
>>> must
>>> > not celebrate just yet. Why?
>>> >
>>> > READ more @
>>> >
>>> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/872-7-reasons-why-cofek-will-fight-to-stop-the-my1963-psv-s-cashless-payment-fraud
>>> > --------
>>> > walu.
>>> >
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