[kictanet] Orange to exit, CS to yank the NOFBI contract from orange

Tue Mar 25 18:44:59 EAT 2014

Why not safaricom itself? Love or loathe it, they know how to bring in the dollars back to the shareholders... Isnt that what it ultimately be about to the "investors"? 

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> On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I suspect KPLC will mainly focus on supplying capacity to ISPs, I doubt they will have a retail push anytime soon. 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Charles Kimani <ckimani at gmail.com> wrote:
>> @James,
>> 
>> The questions you quote vis à vis KPLC are valid.
>> 
>> I am sure they are similar to the questions Safaricom had to answer when deciding to go into banking business (M-PESA) - Only that the ICT regulatory regime is much easier compared to banking.
>> 
>> It's all about opportunities and their "hunger" for it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Charles
>>> On 25 Mar 2014 15:55, "James Mbugua" <jgmbugua at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2. Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different sets of competencies and so on.
>>> 
>>> But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.
>>> 
>>> Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!
>>> 
>>> Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.
>>> 
>>> Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting up the whole place as it was being built.
>>> 
>>> I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> James
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> @Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>> The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would have to come from within.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
>>>>> 
>>>>> They understand infrastructure,  they understand last mile, they understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alliance Technologies
>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.A1.io
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure about rest of Africa. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations in Africa?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound Kenyan leadership :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti..
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be following this with interest.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950946/2256276/-/format/xhtml/-/7wvdim/-/index.html
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>>>>>>> 
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