[kictanet] Orange to exit, CS to yank the NOFBI contract from orange

Tue Mar 25 17:59:55 EAT 2014

I suspect KPLC will mainly focus on supplying capacity to ISPs, I doubt
they will have a retail push anytime soon.

On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Charles Kimani <ckimani at gmail.com> wrote:

> @James,
>
> The questions you quote vis à vis KPLC are valid.
>
> I am sure they are similar to the questions Safaricom had to answer when
> deciding to go into banking business (M-PESA) - Only that the ICT
> regulatory regime is much easier compared to banking.
>
> It's all about opportunities and their "hunger" for it.
>
> Regards,
> Charles
>  On 25 Mar 2014 15:55, "James Mbugua" <jgmbugua at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new
>> subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and
>> the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2.
>> Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different
>> sets of competencies and so on.
>>
>> But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is
>> KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.
>>
>> Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!
>>
>> Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with
>> control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.
>>
>> Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting
>> up the whole place as it was being built.
>>
>> I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for
>> their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> @Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative
>>> opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the
>>> households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber
>>> connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband
>>> infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction
>>> them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider
>>> themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the
>>>> issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
>>>>
>>>> The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender
>>>> would have to come from within.
>>>>
>>>> Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle
>>>> to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
>>>>
>>>> They understand infrastructure,  they understand last mile, they
>>>> understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
>>>>
>>>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>>>
>>>> Alliance Technologies
>>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>
>>>> www.A1.io
>>>> On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is
>>>>> whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing
>>>>> landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is
>>>>> now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure
>>>>>> about rest of Africa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's
>>>>>>> operations in Africa?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <
>>>>>>> murigi.muraya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing
>>>>>>>> business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan
>>>>>>>> CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound
>>>>>>>> *Kenyan* leadership :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control
>>>>>>>> than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market
>>>>>>>>> by end of the year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice
>>>>>>>>> that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it
>>>>>>>>> should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a
>>>>>>>>> partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read
>>>>>>>>> the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much
>>>>>>>>> confetti..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into
>>>>>>>>> the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be
>>>>>>>>> following this with interest.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950946/2256276/-/format/xhtml/-/7wvdim/-/index.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The
>>>>>>>>> world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phares Kariuki
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>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Mwangi
>>>>>
>>>>> markmwangi.me.ke
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