[kictanet] Orange to exit, CS to yank the NOFBI contract from orange

Tue Mar 25 17:29:35 EAT 2014

@James,

The questions you quote vis à vis KPLC are valid.

I am sure they are similar to the questions Safaricom had to answer when
deciding to go into banking business (M-PESA) - Only that the ICT
regulatory regime is much easier compared to banking.

It's all about opportunities and their "hunger" for it.

Regards,
Charles
 On 25 Mar 2014 15:55, "James Mbugua" <jgmbugua at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new
> subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and
> the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2.
> Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different
> sets of competencies and so on.
>
> But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is
> KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.
>
> Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!
>
> Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with
> control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.
>
> Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting
> up the whole place as it was being built.
>
> I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for
> their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .
>
> Regards,
>
> James
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative
>> opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the
>> households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber
>> connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband
>> infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction
>> them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider
>> themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the
>>> issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
>>>
>>> The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender
>>> would have to come from within.
>>>
>>> Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle
>>> to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
>>>
>>> They understand infrastructure,  they understand last mile, they
>>> understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
>>>
>>> Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
>>>
>>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>>
>>> Alliance Technologies
>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>
>>> www.A1.io
>>> On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine
>>>> and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline
>>>> network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now
>>>> copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure
>>>>> about rest of Africa.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations
>>>>>> in Africa?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing
>>>>>>> business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan
>>>>>>> CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound
>>>>>>> *Kenyan* leadership :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than
>>>>>>> one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market
>>>>>>>> by end of the year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice
>>>>>>>> that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it
>>>>>>>> should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a
>>>>>>>> partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read
>>>>>>>> the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much
>>>>>>>> confetti..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into
>>>>>>>> the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be
>>>>>>>> following this with interest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950946/2256276/-/format/xhtml/-/7wvdim/-/index.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The
>>>>>>>> world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Phares Kariuki
>>>>>
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