[kictanet] Orange to exit, CS to yank the NOFBI contract from orange

James Mbugua jgmbugua at gmail.com
Tue Mar 25 15:54:38 EAT 2014


KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new
subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and
the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2.
Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different
sets of competencies and so on.

But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is
KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.

Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!

Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with
control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.

Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting up
the whole place as it was being built.

I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for
their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .

Regards,

James




On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:

> @Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative
> opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the
> households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber
> connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband
> infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction
> them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider
> themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>
>> The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the
>> issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
>>
>> The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender would
>> have to come from within.
>>
>> Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle to
>> take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
>>
>> They understand infrastructure,  they understand last mile, they
>> understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
>>
>> Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
>>
>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>
>> Alliance Technologies
>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>
>> www.A1.io
>> On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is whine
>>> and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing landline
>>> network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is now
>>> copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure
>>>> about rest of Africa.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's operations
>>>>> in Africa?
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing
>>>>>> business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan
>>>>>> CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound
>>>>>> *Kenyan* leadership :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than
>>>>>> one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market
>>>>>>> by end of the year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice
>>>>>>> that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it
>>>>>>> should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a
>>>>>>> partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read
>>>>>>> the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much
>>>>>>> confetti..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into
>>>>>>> the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be
>>>>>>> following this with interest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950946/2256276/-/format/xhtml/-/7wvdim/-/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
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>>>>>>>
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