[kictanet] U.S. $ 140 million investment in local startups by Kenyan government
Agosta Liko
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Wed Jan 22 17:11:56 EAT 2014
Peter
We moved from Kusema ... to Kutenda ...
All that matters is shipping ...
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:56 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Waiting for someone to accuse you of "Negative Energy" for noting how we
> "Work Evil" in Kenya.
>
> Will note this again... Show us a government institution with working
> information systems (usually developed in phases over 18 to 36 months) and
> we will know a leadership team practicing more ethics than theft.
>
> We cannot expect public officials and firms which "survive or thrive" on
> opacity (kickbacks and looting) to model or deliver on transparency and
> accountability.
>
> Regards
>
> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
> On Jan 22, 2014 3:25 PM, "Peter Wakaba" <peterwakaba at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Adam, notice, the deathly 'silence' around this topic..... see no evil
>> hear no evil....
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kenya is ripe for something like Huffington Post or Politico - an online
>>> only 'newspaper' that has a full newsgathering capacity with proper
>>> branding and a marketing budget.
>>>
>>> Such a site could definitely reach 10M monthly uniques (if it was
>>> properly funded) and generate probably $1MUSD/year in revenues in 2 years
>>> with a $300-500kUSD investment .... too bad the $140M is already gone :-/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> HERE, THEY OFFER U CASH, YOU SAY NO, THEY DOBLE IT, OFFER IT TO UA BOSS
>>>> AND U STILL DONT GET TO DO THE STORY....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a great start for a piece of investigative reporting by an
>>>>> aspiring journalist looking to make a name for him or herself.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> we have a multitude of 'funds'. Hard to track because they
>>>>>> reincarnate every year, change with every government, rebrand, shift from
>>>>>> one ministry to another... are positioned to do one thing at creation and
>>>>>> morph into other things.... then disbursement is countrywide through, so
>>>>>> called line mininstries, so each allocation goies into a certain ministry's
>>>>>> budget.... i am hoping you get teh picture...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They fund everything from kiosks, to farmactivity to mobile software
>>>>>> development
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of
>>>>>>> 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the
>>>>>>> country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either
>>>>>>> to startups or elsewhere)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba at gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form
>>>>>>>> the ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to
>>>>>>>> start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of
>>>>>>>> someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry
>>>>>>>> had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20
>>>>>>>> names, either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were
>>>>>>>> talking about while several became downright menacing when we told them why
>>>>>>>> we were calling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <
>>>>>>>> robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Adam,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me
>>>>>>>>> coming back to the list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to
>>>>>>>>> throw in their twenty cents?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert Yawe
>>>>>>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>>>>>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>>>>>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>>>>>>>> Kenya
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible
>>>>>>>>> to me. Am I missing something?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now
>>>>>>>>> 71:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://angel.co/locations
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of those, only 3 are hiring:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://angel.co/kenya/jobs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be
>>>>>>>>> developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't
>>>>>>>>> changed ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup,
>>>>>>>>> AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local
>>>>>>>>> startups to get on there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>>>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>>>>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Welcome back.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in
>>>>>>>>> funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a
>>>>>>>>> different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <
>>>>>>>>> robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing
>>>>>>>>> spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above
>>>>>>>>> with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as
>>>>>>>>> it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on
>>>>>>>>> the economy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image:
>>>>>>>>> http://startupbrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NAIROBI-infographic-1.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert Yawe
>>>>>>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>>>>>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>>>>>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>>>>>>>> Kenya
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Regards,*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Warm Regards, PETER WAKABA AFRICA BUSINESS
>>>>>>>> EDITOR, CCTV AFRICA Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes
>>>>>>>> up, It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed.
>>>>>>>> Every morning a lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle
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>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Warm Regards, PETER WAKABA AFRICA BUSINESS EDITOR,
>>>>>> CCTV AFRICA Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up, It
>>>>>> knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every
>>>>>> morning a lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it
>>>>>> will starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a gazelle or a
>>>>>> lion. When the sun comes up, you better start running. - In "The World is
>>>>>> Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman.*
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Warm Regards, PETER WAKABA AFRICA BUSINESS EDITOR,
>>>> CCTV AFRICA Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up, It
>>>> knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every
>>>> morning a lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it
>>>> will starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a gazelle or a
>>>> lion. When the sun comes up, you better start running. - In "The World is
>>>> Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman.*
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Warm Regards, PETER WAKABA AFRICA BUSINESS EDITOR,
>> CCTV AFRICA Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up, It
>> knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every
>> morning a lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it
>> will starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a gazelle or a
>> lion. When the sun comes up, you better start running. - In "The World is
>> Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman.*
>>
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