[kictanet] U.S. $ 140 million investment in local startups by Kenyan government
S.M. Muraya
murigi.muraya at gmail.com
Wed Jan 22 15:56:43 EAT 2014
Peter,
Waiting for someone to accuse you of "Negative Energy" for noting how we
"Work Evil" in Kenya.
Will note this again... Show us a government institution with working
information systems (usually developed in phases over 18 to 36 months) and
we will know a leadership team practicing more ethics than theft.
We cannot expect public officials and firms which "survive or thrive" on
opacity (kickbacks and looting) to model or deliver on transparency and
accountability.
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
On Jan 22, 2014 3:25 PM, "Peter Wakaba" <peterwakaba at gmail.com> wrote:
> Adam, notice, the deathly 'silence' around this topic..... see no evil
> hear no evil....
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>
>> Kenya is ripe for something like Huffington Post or Politico - an online
>> only 'newspaper' that has a full newsgathering capacity with proper
>> branding and a marketing budget.
>>
>> Such a site could definitely reach 10M monthly uniques (if it was
>> properly funded) and generate probably $1MUSD/year in revenues in 2 years
>> with a $300-500kUSD investment .... too bad the $140M is already gone :-/
>>
>> --
>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>> More Musings: varud.com
>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> HERE, THEY OFFER U CASH, YOU SAY NO, THEY DOBLE IT, OFFER IT TO UA BOSS
>>> AND U STILL DONT GET TO DO THE STORY....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like a great start for a piece of investigative reporting by an
>>>> aspiring journalist looking to make a name for him or herself.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> we have a multitude of 'funds'. Hard to track because they reincarnate
>>>>> every year, change with every government, rebrand, shift from one ministry
>>>>> to another... are positioned to do one thing at creation and morph into
>>>>> other things.... then disbursement is countrywide through, so called line
>>>>> mininstries, so each allocation goies into a certain ministry's budget....
>>>>> i am hoping you get teh picture...
>>>>>
>>>>> They fund everything from kiosks, to farmactivity to mobile software
>>>>> development
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of
>>>>>> 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the
>>>>>> country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either to
>>>>>> startups or elsewhere)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form the
>>>>>>> ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to
>>>>>>> start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of
>>>>>>> someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry
>>>>>>> had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 names,
>>>>>>> either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were talking about
>>>>>>> while several became downright menacing when we told them why we were
>>>>>>> calling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Adam,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me
>>>>>>>> coming back to the list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw
>>>>>>>> in their twenty cents?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert Yawe
>>>>>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>>>>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>>>>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>>>>>>> Kenya
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible
>>>>>>>> to me. Am I missing something?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now
>>>>>>>> 71:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://angel.co/locations
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of those, only 3 are hiring:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://angel.co/kenya/jobs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be
>>>>>>>> developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't
>>>>>>>> changed ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup,
>>>>>>>> AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local
>>>>>>>> startups to get on there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>>>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Welcome back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in
>>>>>>>> funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a
>>>>>>>> different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <
>>>>>>>> robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing
>>>>>>>> spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with
>>>>>>>> me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it
>>>>>>>> would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on
>>>>>>>> the economy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image:
>>>>>>>> http://startupbrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NAIROBI-infographic-1.jpg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert Yawe
>>>>>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>>>>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>>>>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>>>>>>> Kenya
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> *Warm Regards, PETER WAKABA AFRICA BUSINESS EDITOR,
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>>>>> morning a lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it
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>>> morning a lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it
>>> will starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a gazelle or a
>>> lion. When the sun comes up, you better start running. - In "The World is
>>> Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman.*
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> *Warm Regards, PETER WAKABA AFRICA BUSINESS EDITOR, CCTV
> AFRICA Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up, It knows it
> must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a
> lion wakes up, it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will
> starve to death. It doesn't matter whether you are a gazelle or a lion.
> When the sun comes up, you better start running. - In "The World is Flat"
> by Thomas L. Friedman.*
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