[kictanet] Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese
Walubengo J
jwalu at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 4 14:22:30 EAT 2014
@Chuks,
Very interesting development...instead of attracting chinese tourists, we seem to be attracting chinese hackers :-)
But on a serious note, i still dont understand WHY they needed to be resident in Kenya in order to execute thier cybercrime when they can do safely from their homes in China.
Or maybe they were sniffing the local airwaves in rich neighbourhoods of Runda for wi-fi passwords - but you dont need a whole battaliion and server room to do that. Very fishy indeed.
walu.
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On Thu, 12/4/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [Security Forum] Fwd: Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese
To: jwalu at yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014, 11:11 AM
Lemmie patch up this discussion to
the other main mail list, for awareness.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BRIGHT GAMELI via Security <security at lists.my.co.ke>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 16:26:26 +0900
Subject: Re: [Security Forum] Fwd: Cyber Warfare on Kenya or
Random Chinese
To: fredrick Wahome <frewah85 at gmail.com>,
"Security Forum All
information security discussions in Africa are done here
(Hacking,
Decryptions, Security management, physical security,
Disastor
Recovery, Security Assessments etc etc)" <security at lists.my.co.ke>
Lets take a look at the strategic positions where these guys
are located.
Well even not much information has been release, a good yagi
antenna can go
really far as an example.
I also think the story will just die down and we will never
hear about it
again.
The government however will need to speed up forensics of
these servers and
all to know what kind of activities were being carried
around. But again, I
highly doubt we will get to know the details.
Another good read here
http://www.kahawatungu.com/2014/09/06/chinese-hackers-embarassed-uhuru-usa/
Lets not turn a blind eye to all these before it is too
late.
~ze3D~
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:54 PM, fredrick Wahome via Security
<
security at lists.my.co.ke>
wrote:
> The reason why the government will not allow media into
the rooms to
> capture the real setups....This will be just forgotten
as Kanyaris issue.
> It must be a big operational group with safe havens
spread across the
> country. How I wish the digital government would invest
in cyber
> intelligence. But for now this will remain just a
wish...
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:45 AM, John Doe. <agikabia at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> As someone commented earlier,most guys on this list
have equipments
>> running in their homes as well.
>> The information being provided is really not clear
on what they were
>> doing.
>> Most likely as fredrick has said and i tend to
agree,this guys were
>> actually up to no good.
>> The question that begs is this.
>> Since our government turned to the East for
Financial Support.loans
>> etc...do you really think China will allow these
guys to be placed behind
>> bars in kenya?
>> Most likely this story will go quiet and not be
remembered.
>> I just tend to imagine how many other places may be
in operation in
>> kenya and even being run by other nationalities.
>>
>> Regards
>> Antony
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:33 AM, fredrick Wahome via
Security <
>> security at lists.my.co.ke>
wrote:
>>
>>> I have every reason to believe this is a cyber
espionage by these
>>> Chinese guys. Peeped into some conversation on
IRC with some blackhats in
>>> 2012 and they mentioned something like Chinese
CyberSpy ring operating in
>>> Nairobi. However they are spying all over
Africa with Runda being one of
>>> their safe house. But as obvious if you try to
alert the government the
>>> Ruaraka boys will actually start investigating
you
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Adam Nelson via
Security <
>>> security at lists.my.co.ke>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> The reporting and statements by GoK are
still too vague to understand
>>>> what actually happened. Half the
people on this list have network
>>>> equipment and servers in their house.
And if you were running a serious
>>>> cybercrime syndicate in a house, you don't
need dozens of people to do it.
>>>>
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>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>> About Adam:
www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
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>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Mark
Kipyegon via Security <
>>>> security at lists.my.co.ke>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A more recent news report now claims
the group is being charged in
>>>>> court with illegally operating a radio
station. The same report then links
>>>>> this "cyber-crime command centre" to
hacking facebook accounts, mpesa
>>>>> fraud, card theft and bizarrely,
"Police said the Chinese were preparing to
>>>>> raid the country's communication
systems".
>>>>>
>>>>> Would anyone have more usable
information on this?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mark.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Dec 2014, at 14:20, "Almerindo
Graziano via Security" <
>>>>> security at lists.my.co.ke>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> the entire country is welcoming
supplies and services from China
>>>>> across the ENTIRE critical
infrastructure..That worries me more in terms of
>>>>> cyber warfare. No need of backdoor when
you are let in through the front
>>>>> door :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hence I seriously doubt the news is
related to cyber warfare
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/12/2014 14:07, Adam Nelson via
Security wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And it might just be that these guys
are working on an oilfield in
>>>>> Turkana and have VHF radios and Runda
is their HQ and they simply didn't
>>>>> have the correct visas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>>> About Adam:
www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Robin
Wood via Security <
>>>>> security at lists.my.co.ke>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 December 2014 at 10:28,
Gichuki John Chuksjonia via Security
>>>>>> <security at lists.my.co.ke>
wrote:
>>>>>> > Cyber Warfare is real
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would agree that Cyber Warefare
is real but would say that this is
>>>>>> possibly more like normal
criminality than warfare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> > From: BRIGHT GAMELI via
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>>>>>> > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 17:57:00
+0900
>>>>>> > Subject: [Security Forum]
Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese
>>>>>> > To: "Security Forum All
information security discussions in Africa
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > done here (Hacking,
Decryptions, Security management, physical
>>>>>> > security, Disastor Recovery,
Security Assessments etc etc)"
>>>>>> > <security at lists.my.co.ke>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Should we start to say Cyber
Warfare is real on Kenya or just brush
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> > off as another random
happenings in Runda.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://www.trending.co.ke/police-arrest-36-chinese-natio-852390307.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ~ze3D~
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> > I.T Security Analyst and
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