[kictanet] Fwd: [Security Forum] Fwd: Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese

Thu Dec 4 11:11:26 EAT 2014

Lemmie patch up this discussion to the other main mail list, for awareness.

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From: BRIGHT GAMELI via Security <security at lists.my.co.ke>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 16:26:26 +0900
Subject: Re: [Security Forum] Fwd: Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese
To: fredrick Wahome <frewah85 at gmail.com>, "Security Forum All
information security discussions in Africa are done here (Hacking,
Decryptions, Security management, physical security, Disastor
Recovery, Security Assessments etc etc)" <security at lists.my.co.ke>

Lets take a look at the strategic positions where these guys are located.
Well even not much information has been release, a good yagi antenna can go
really far as an example.

I also think the story will just die down and we will never hear about it
again.

The government however will need to speed up forensics of these servers and
all to know what kind of activities were being carried around. But again, I
highly doubt we will get to know the details.
Another good read here

http://www.kahawatungu.com/2014/09/06/chinese-hackers-embarassed-uhuru-usa/

Lets not turn a blind eye to all these before it is too late.

~ze3D~

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:54 PM, fredrick Wahome via Security <
security at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

> The reason why the government will not allow media into the rooms to
> capture the real setups....This will be just forgotten as Kanyaris issue.
> It must be a big operational group with safe havens spread across the
> country. How I wish the digital government would invest in cyber
> intelligence. But for now this will remain just a wish...
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:45 AM, John Doe. <agikabia at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As someone commented earlier,most guys on this list have equipments
>> running in their homes as well.
>> The information being provided is really not clear on what they were
>> doing.
>> Most likely as fredrick has said and i tend to agree,this guys were
>> actually up to no good.
>> The question that begs is this.
>> Since our government turned to the East for Financial Support.loans
>> etc...do you really think China will allow these guys to be placed behind
>> bars in kenya?
>> Most likely this story will go quiet and not be remembered.
>> I just tend to imagine how many other places may be in operation in
>> kenya and even being run by other nationalities.
>>
>> Regards
>> Antony
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:33 AM, fredrick Wahome via Security <
>> security at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> I have every reason to believe this is a cyber espionage by these
>>> Chinese guys. Peeped into some conversation on IRC with some blackhats in
>>> 2012 and they mentioned something like Chinese CyberSpy ring operating in
>>> Nairobi. However they are spying all over Africa with Runda being one of
>>> their safe house. But as obvious if you try to alert the government the
>>> Ruaraka boys will actually start investigating you
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Adam Nelson via Security <
>>> security at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The reporting and statements by GoK are still too vague to understand
>>>> what actually happened.  Half the people on this list have network
>>>> equipment and servers in their house.  And if you were running a serious
>>>> cybercrime syndicate in a house, you don't need dozens of people to do it.
>>>>
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>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Mark Kipyegon via Security <
>>>> security at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A more recent news report now claims the group is being charged in
>>>>> court with illegally operating a radio station. The same report then links
>>>>> this "cyber-crime command centre" to hacking facebook accounts, mpesa
>>>>> fraud, card theft and bizarrely, "Police said the Chinese were preparing to
>>>>> raid the country's communication systems".
>>>>>
>>>>> Would anyone have more usable information on this?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mark.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Dec 2014, at 14:20, "Almerindo Graziano via Security" <
>>>>> security at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> the entire country is welcoming supplies and services from China
>>>>> across the ENTIRE critical infrastructure..That worries me more in terms of
>>>>> cyber warfare. No need of backdoor when you are let in through the front
>>>>> door :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hence I seriously doubt the news is related to cyber warfare
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/12/2014 14:07, Adam Nelson via Security wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And it might just be that these guys are working on an oilfield in
>>>>> Turkana and have VHF radios and Runda is their HQ and they simply didn't
>>>>> have the correct visas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Robin Wood via Security <
>>>>> security at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 December 2014 at 10:28, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via Security
>>>>>> <security at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>>> > Cyber Warfare is real
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would agree that Cyber Warefare is real but would say that this is
>>>>>> possibly more like normal criminality than warfare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> > From: BRIGHT GAMELI via Security <security at lists.my.co.ke>
>>>>>> > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 17:57:00 +0900
>>>>>> > Subject: [Security Forum] Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese
>>>>>> > To: "Security Forum All information security discussions in Africa
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > done here (Hacking, Decryptions, Security management, physical
>>>>>> > security, Disastor Recovery, Security Assessments etc etc)"
>>>>>> > <security at lists.my.co.ke>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Should we start to say Cyber Warfare is real on Kenya or just brush
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> > off as another random happenings in Runda.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://www.trending.co.ke/police-arrest-36-chinese-natio-852390307.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ~ze3D~
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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