[kictanet] Can technology solve terrorist problems in Kenya?

Tue Apr 15 18:38:25 EAT 2014

So if re-registration will be based on a current database - what's the
point? Why not use the current database that re-registration  will be based
on?

Also, why have we diverted from tackling terrorism to tackling immigration
- this is similar to setting out to arrest car thieves but instead
arresting all those with logbook issues?

On 15 April 2014 17:29, James Mbugua <jgmbugua at gmail.com> wrote:

>  First things first, police don't run immigration departments, civil
> servants do.
>
> Secondly, the way re-registration is supposed to work is that holders of
> illegal documents are not in the national database.
>
> They got their papers at the outposts but have no corresponding documents
> at the registrar's. No Fathers' IDs, no birth certificate etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> James
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> Sent: 4/15/2014 3:21 PM
> To: jgmbugua at gmail.com
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Can technology solve terrorist problems in Kenya?
>
> The police service is obviously corrupt. This is probably tolerated by
> the political class because it keeps demands for better salaries and
> work conditions to the minimum. The avenues of getting money illegally
> are numerous and have minimal risk so earning a net salary of Ksh
> 40,000 and making Kshs 200,000 keeps them happy. Also they are
> malleable to the politics of the day.
>
> Having interacted with some on a case before, I can comfortably say
> they are not incompetent. They can do all that detective work and CSI
> crap we see on TV if and only if facilitated by the equipment,
> politics and institutional support.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt
> <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
> > The police are, reliably, year after year, voted 'Most corrupt
> institution'
> > in the country. I am sure there are a few good apples among them, but
> > claiming anything else would just be empirically incorrect.
> >
> >
> > On 15 April 2014 14:00, Rad! <conradakunga at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> @Brian
> >>
> >> Be offended all you want. The fact of the matter is there is corruption
> at
> >> both immigration and the police.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Conrad,
> >>>
> >>> I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and
> >>> immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any
> other
> >>> country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who
> faithfully
> >>> serve this country every day and are not what you describe.....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <conradakunga at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers
> >>>> running this exercise, what will be the point?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva
> >>>> <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2279712/-/format/xhtml/-/uityfn/-/index.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US
> >>>>> citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony
> >>>>> marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a
> >>>>> biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of
> >>>>> registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan
> >>>>> citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande,
> >>>>> all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
> >>>>>
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