[kictanet] Can technology solve terrorist problems in Kenya?

Tue Apr 15 17:29:27 EAT 2014

First things first, police don't run immigration departments, civil servants do.

Secondly, the way re-registration is supposed to work is that holders of illegal documents are not in the national database.

They got their papers at the outposts but have no corresponding documents at the registrar's. No Fathers' IDs, no birth certificate etc.

Regards,

James 

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From: "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy at gmail.com>
Sent: ‎4/‎15/‎2014 3:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Can technology solve terrorist problems in Kenya?

The police service is obviously corrupt. This is probably tolerated by
the political class because it keeps demands for better salaries and
work conditions to the minimum. The avenues of getting money illegally
are numerous and have minimal risk so earning a net salary of Ksh
40,000 and making Kshs 200,000 keeps them happy. Also they are
malleable to the politics of the day.

Having interacted with some on a case before, I can comfortably say
they are not incompetent. They can do all that detective work and CSI
crap we see on TV if and only if facilitated by the equipment,
politics and institutional support.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt
<andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
> The police are, reliably, year after year, voted 'Most corrupt institution'
> in the country. I am sure there are a few good apples among them, but
> claiming anything else would just be empirically incorrect.
>
>
> On 15 April 2014 14:00, Rad! <conradakunga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> @Brian
>>
>> Be offended all you want. The fact of the matter is there is corruption at
>> both immigration and the police.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Conrad,
>>>
>>> I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and
>>> immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any other
>>> country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who faithfully
>>> serve this country every day and are not what you describe.....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <conradakunga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers
>>>> running this exercise, what will be the point?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva
>>>> <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
>>>>>
>>>>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2279712/-/format/xhtml/-/uityfn/-/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US
>>>>> citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony
>>>>> marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a
>>>>> biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of
>>>>> registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan
>>>>> citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande,
>>>>> all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh
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