[kictanet] Did I hear Telco CEOs say Everyone is Registered?

Thu Oct 10 15:15:38 EAT 2013

Mark,
If it were not for Prof. Wangari Maathai, there will be no Uhuru Park or
Karura Forest.  The reason why we always have a balance of power in any
democracy is because when one makes either genuine or unintended mistake
the other will correct it.  If all three do the same, we have civil
society to do the job.  This is why it is futile to try blame anybody now.
 The fact is that we are all in it and we should guard against that
happening once more.

Ndemo.

> Dr.Ndemo,
>
> True we are all in this together but what is the point of leadership if it
> does not lead?
>
> My point is that throwing the problem back to the collective gets the
> government off the hook. Take Westgate mall and Ukay being built on a
> riparian reserve. We have NEMA, courts of law, Police, Ministries and
> various other bodies that could have put a stop to this but we now want to
> throw it back to the corrupt nature of the public?
>
> I know it is not very noble to point fingers away from yourself however
> the
> buck has to stop somewhere and I doubt it is with 40 million citizens. The
> government needs support from the public to implement policies but it must
> be perceived to be acting for the public good and errant officials no
> matter how high or connected should be punished.
>
> We can't keep saying Kenyans need to change as though the Govt is
> powerless. Everybody's fault is nobody's fault.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:48 AM, ICT Researcher
> <ict.researcher at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> At the press conference the CEOs lied shamelessly about NOT having
>> unregistered users.
>>
>> Read:
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/news/SIM-cards-registration-security/-/1056/2026234/-/u58ibgz/-/index.html
>>
>> Mobile phone firms on Wednesday blocked unregistered SIM cards from
>> their
>> networks following an order by President Kenyatta.
>> The President on Wednesday ordered immediate mop-up of all unregistered
>> SIM cards to prevent their use by criminals.
>>
>> “Move with speed in ensuring that the unregistered SIM cards are
>> disabled
>> completely. We do not want unscrupulous people to use them in
>> perpetrating
>> criminal activities,” he said during a meeting with mobile phone company
>> bosses at State House, Nairobi.
>> *
>> *
>> *TRIED TO MAKE CALLS*
>>
>> Numerous numbers from the Safaricom, Airtel, Orange and yu networks were
>> disconnected on Wednesday morning.
>>
>> Safaricom switched off its network on Tuesday between 11pm and midnight.
>>
>> Subscribers who tried to make calls at the time received a message which
>> said: “We cannot complete your request as your phone is not registered.”
>>
>> Subscribers called the Nation newsroom to complain that they had been
>> switched off.
>>
>> “My yu Sim card was working perfectly until yesterday morning when it
>> suddenly lost network. It was registered by the street vendor who sold
>> it
>> to me,” Mr Anthony Mugo said.
>>
>> Mr Mikah Kiptoo, who had an Orange line, said: “I have been browsing on
>> my
>> Orange line since 7am until around 10:30am when my line lost network. I
>> called customer care and was told to visit the nearest Orange agent. My
>> line was switched off without notification.”
>>
>> Safaricom director of corporate affairs, Mr Nzioka Waita, said that he
>> had
>> not received any complaints of blocked SIM cards. He maintained that the
>> company had no unregistered SIM cards accessing its network.
>>
>> yuMobile chief executive Madhur Taneja told the Nation on phone that the
>> SIM disconnection was part of a regular process conducted among
>> customers
>> whose registration details are not convincing.
>>
>> “If a customer’s documentation is not complete, it is nothing new or
>> different, their lines will automatically be disconnected. We advised
>> the
>> customers to resubmit their details. They could have been 100 or even
>> 1,000
>> customers,” Mr Taneja said.
>>
>> Airtel did not respond to phone calls from the Nation.
>>
>> Communications Commission of Kenya director-general Francis Wangusi
>> warned
>> at a press briefing at the Hotel InterContinental that it would suspend
>> the
>> licences of mobile phone firms if all unregistered SIM cards on their
>> networks were not terminated. The companies were also cautioned to
>> provide
>> updated call records to the regulator.
>>
>> As a lesson to others, the government should seriously consider revoking
>> their work permits for breaking Kenyan law
>>
>>
>>
>>    On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:43 PM, Bitange Ndemo <
>> bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>  Mark,
>> We all have the responsibility to look after one another.  If you see
>> someone selling fake IDs please report.  If someone is selling to you a
>> sim without registering you, refuse and ask them to follow the law.
>> This
>> is what happens in other countries.  Enforcement of the law is a
>> collective responsibility.  If you see someone pouring cyanide to the
>> water we drink, do you just walk away that it is not your
>> responsibility?
>>
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > @Dr. Ndemo are we now saying that this is also the citizens fault? If
>> I
>> > can
>> > buy a SIM card without registering, I will. The hustle of registering
>> is
>> a
>> > waste of my time since it is of no benefit to me. The information is
>> > valuable to the government and so the establishment should be at the
>> fore
>> > front of ensuring it is collected correctly.
>> >
>> > That there are fake IDs being made in river road is also the
>> authorities
>> > problem. I Imagine they are always better informed than the regular
>> > mwananchi what with their network of informants and NIS agents.
>> >
>> > Discipline comes from the top.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] <
>> > bkioko at bernsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well said Daktari,
>> >>
>> >> My mind goes wild everytime I imagine 100% compliance in this
>> >> registration.
>> >> The m-commerce and e-commerce opportunities that lie hidden by this.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: kictanet
>> >> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> Of Bitange Ndemo
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 7:52 PM
>> >> To: bkioko at bernsoft.com
>> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Did I hear Telco CEOs say Everyone is
>> >> Registered?
>> >>
>> >> Edith,
>> >> We are just quarrelsome people.  We lack the discipline to: take our
>> >> responsibilities seriously, obey the law, be part of the solution and
>> >> above
>> >> all be our brother's keepers.  The Ministry did their best in pushing
>> >> for
>> >> the registration.  It was even forced to change the law in order to
>> do
>> >> it
>> >> legally.  It is for us and operators to follow the law.
>> >>
>> >> As for what the registration will do to evade terrorists, let us do
>> our
>> >> part
>> >> in securing our people.  Traceability is critical in any security
>> >> arrangement.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ndemo.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Listers,
>> >> >
>> >> > At the press conference yesterday, did the Teleco CEOs say that
>> >> > everyone is registered? A number of people complaining that their
>> >> > phones were switched off last night and they got automated messages
>> >> > indicating that their phones were not registered.
>> >> >
>> >> > We need to be honest and run this industry professionally! Have we
>> >> > lost direction?
>> >> >
>> >> > Edith
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