[kictanet] Did I hear Telco CEOs say Everyone is Registered?

Thu Oct 10 10:37:26 EAT 2013

Listers,

The Business Daily is reporting that CBK will require telcos to open
independent subsidiaries to handle the cash remittance function complete
with a separate management structure and keeping separate books of account
for the payment service division.

Now this does not go as far as introducing the carrier neutral mobile money
service we need but maybed hand in hand with the new rules will be a
requirement to these services to "TALK" seamlessly with each other and with
other payments systems and banks the way different banks transact with one
another.

Secondly, I think it should be a wake up call to Safaricom to OPEN M-Pesa
to allow third parties to run away with new innovations with a standard API
or standard protocols for interfacing with the service without having to
require Safaricom's assessment of whether the service is viable or not or
even taking part in profit sharing.

As great a pioneering product Safaricom has brought, one thing is for sure,
the Brains at Safaricom House cannot match those of the thousands of IT
kids coming out of school daily and the logical thing is to let others now
come up with innovations that ride off M-PESA independently.

Otherwise, Kenya may be the global leader in Mobile money transfers, but if
we do not allow our kids to make the next great products by opening these
systems to them now, we will rue it later when the Paypal of mobile money
or the Ebay of mobile money is invented and popularized in another country
and we will hear of how Silicon Valley has produced yet another Billionaire
riding a product we could have come up with years before.

Regards

James

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/CBK-seeks-mobile-firm-subsidiaries/-/539552/2025700/-/14bgjuqz/-/index.html

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke> wrote:

>  Mark,****
>
> ** **
>
> Who is the government? Who puts these leaders in their positions? Who vets
> these leaders before being appointed in Government? Who votes in the MPs?
> Who are responsible in making them accountable? Who turn the other way when
> “their person” is on the seat and doing these wrong things?  ****
>
> THE BUCK STOPS WITH THE 40 MILLION KENYANS.  ****
>
> Time for Kenyans to smell the salt and wake up.****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,****
>
> ** **
>
> Gilda Odera****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+godera=
> skyweb.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Mark Mwangi
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:10 AM
> *To:* godera at skyweb.co.ke
>
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Did I hear Telco CEOs say Everyone is
> Registered?****
>
>  ** **
>
> Dr.Ndemo,****
>
> ** **
>
> True we are all in this together but what is the point of leadership if it
> does not lead? ****
>
> ** **
>
> My point is that throwing the problem back to the collective gets the
> government off the hook. Take Westgate mall and Ukay being built on a
> riparian reserve. We have NEMA, courts of law, Police, Ministries and
> various other bodies that could have put a stop to this but we now want to
> throw it back to the corrupt nature of the public?****
>
> ** **
>
> I know it is not very noble to point fingers away from yourself however
> the buck has to stop somewhere and I doubt it is with 40 million citizens.
> The government needs support from the public to implement policies but it
> must be perceived to be acting for the public good and errant officials no
> matter how high or connected should be punished. ****
>
> ** **
>
> We can't keep saying Kenyans need to change as though the Govt is
> powerless. Everybody's fault is nobody's fault. ****
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:48 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher at yahoo.com>
> wrote:****
>
> At the press conference the CEOs lied shamelessly about NOT having
> unregistered users.
>
> Read:
> http://www.nation.co.ke/news/SIM-cards-registration-security/-/1056/2026234/-/u58ibgz/-/index.html
> ****
>
> Mobile phone firms on Wednesday blocked unregistered SIM cards from their
> networks following an order by President Kenyatta.****
>
> The President on Wednesday ordered immediate mop-up of all unregistered
> SIM cards to prevent their use by criminals.****
>
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>
> “Move with speed in ensuring that the unregistered SIM cards are disabled
> completely. We do not want unscrupulous people to use them in perpetrating
> criminal activities,” he said during a meeting with mobile phone company
> bosses at State House, Nairobi.****
>
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>
> *TRIED TO MAKE CALLS***
>
> ** **
>
> Numerous numbers from the Safaricom, Airtel, Orange and yu networks were
> disconnected on Wednesday morning.****
>
> ** **
>
> Safaricom switched off its network on Tuesday between 11pm and midnight. *
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Subscribers who tried to make calls at the time received a message which
> said: “We cannot complete your request as your phone is not registered.” *
> ***
>
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>
> Subscribers called the Nation newsroom to complain that they had been
> switched off.****
>
> ** **
>
> “My yu Sim card was working perfectly until yesterday morning when it
> suddenly lost network. It was registered by the street vendor who sold it
> to me,” Mr Anthony Mugo said.****
>
> ** **
>
> Mr Mikah Kiptoo, who had an Orange line, said: “I have been browsing on my
> Orange line since 7am until around 10:30am when my line lost network. I
> called customer care and was told to visit the nearest Orange agent. My
> line was switched off without notification.”****
>
> ** **
>
> Safaricom director of corporate affairs, Mr Nzioka Waita, said that he had
> not received any complaints of blocked SIM cards. He maintained that the
> company had no unregistered SIM cards accessing its network. ****
>
> ** **
>
> yuMobile chief executive Madhur Taneja told the Nation on phone that the
> SIM disconnection was part of a regular process conducted among customers
> whose registration details are not convincing.****
>
> ** **
>
> “If a customer’s documentation is not complete, it is nothing new or
> different, their lines will automatically be disconnected. We advised the
> customers to resubmit their details. They could have been 100 or even 1,000
> customers,” Mr Taneja said.****
>
> ** **
>
> Airtel did not respond to phone calls from the Nation.****
>
> ** **
>
> Communications Commission of Kenya director-general Francis Wangusi warned
> at a press briefing at the Hotel InterContinental that it would suspend the
> licences of mobile phone firms if all unregistered SIM cards on their
> networks were not terminated. The companies were also cautioned to provide
> updated call records to the regulator.****
>
>
> As a lesson to others, the government should seriously consider revoking
> their work permits for breaking Kenyan law ****
>
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>
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>
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:43 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> wrote:****
>
> Mark,
> We all have the responsibility to look after one another.  If you see
> someone selling fake IDs please report.  If someone is selling to you a
> sim without registering you, refuse and ask them to follow the law.  This
> is what happens in other countries.  Enforcement of the law is a
> collective responsibility.  If you see someone pouring cyanide to the
> water we drink, do you just walk away that it is not your responsibility?
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > @Dr. Ndemo are we now saying that this is also the citizens fault? If I
> > can
> > buy a SIM card without registering, I will. The hustle of registering is
> a
> > waste of my time since it is of no benefit to me. The information is
> > valuable to the government and so the establishment should be at the fore
> > front of ensuring it is collected correctly.
> >
> > That there are fake IDs being made in river road is also the authorities
> > problem. I Imagine they are always better informed than the regular
> > mwananchi what with their network of informants and NIS agents.
> >
> > Discipline comes from the top.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] <
> > bkioko at bernsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well said Daktari,
> >>
> >> My mind goes wild everytime I imagine 100% compliance in this
> >> registration.
> >> The m-commerce and e-commerce opportunities that lie hidden by this.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: kictanet
> >> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Bitange Ndemo
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 7:52 PM
> >> To: bkioko at bernsoft.com
> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Did I hear Telco CEOs say Everyone is
> >> Registered?
> >>
> >> Edith,
> >> We are just quarrelsome people.  We lack the discipline to: take our
> >> responsibilities seriously, obey the law, be part of the solution and
> >> above
> >> all be our brother's keepers.  The Ministry did their best in pushing
> >> for
> >> the registration.  It was even forced to change the law in order to do
> >> it
> >> legally.  It is for us and operators to follow the law.
> >>
> >> As for what the registration will do to evade terrorists, let us do our
> >> part
> >> in securing our people.  Traceability is critical in any security
> >> arrangement.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ndemo.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Listers,
> >> >
> >> > At the press conference yesterday, did the Teleco CEOs say that
> >> > everyone is registered? A number of people complaining that their
> >> > phones were switched off last night and they got automated messages
> >> > indicating that their phones were not registered.
> >> >
> >> > We need to be honest and run this industry professionally! Have we
> >> > lost direction?
> >> >
> >> > Edith
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