[kictanet] Did I hear Telco CEOs say Everyone is Registered?

Thu Oct 10 13:41:02 EAT 2013

@ Mark Mwangi

I recently read this article and I can't agree with Dr. Ndemo more ...

http://www.cbmcint.org/resources/monday-manna/2013/10/7

Cleophas

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:

> Mark,
> We all have the responsibility to look after one another.  If you see
> someone selling fake IDs please report.  If someone is selling to you a
> sim without registering you, refuse and ask them to follow the law.  This
> is what happens in other countries.  Enforcement of the law is a
> collective responsibility.  If you see someone pouring cyanide to the
> water we drink, do you just walk away that it is not your responsibility?
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > @Dr. Ndemo are we now saying that this is also the citizens fault? If I
> > can
> > buy a SIM card without registering, I will. The hustle of registering is
> a
> > waste of my time since it is of no benefit to me. The information is
> > valuable to the government and so the establishment should be at the fore
> > front of ensuring it is collected correctly.
> >
> > That there are fake IDs being made in river road is also the authorities
> > problem. I Imagine they are always better informed than the regular
> > mwananchi what with their network of informants and NIS agents.
> >
> > Discipline comes from the top.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] <
> > bkioko at bernsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well said Daktari,
> >>
> >> My mind goes wild everytime I imagine 100% compliance in this
> >> registration.
> >> The m-commerce and e-commerce opportunities that lie hidden by this.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: kictanet
> >> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Bitange Ndemo
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 7:52 PM
> >> To: bkioko at bernsoft.com
> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Did I hear Telco CEOs say Everyone is
> >> Registered?
> >>
> >> Edith,
> >> We are just quarrelsome people.  We lack the discipline to: take our
> >> responsibilities seriously, obey the law, be part of the solution and
> >> above
> >> all be our brother's keepers.  The Ministry did their best in pushing
> >> for
> >> the registration.  It was even forced to change the law in order to do
> >> it
> >> legally.  It is for us and operators to follow the law.
> >>
> >> As for what the registration will do to evade terrorists, let us do our
> >> part
> >> in securing our people.  Traceability is critical in any security
> >> arrangement.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ndemo.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Listers,
> >> >
> >> > At the press conference yesterday, did the Teleco CEOs say that
> >> > everyone is registered? A number of people complaining that their
> >> > phones were switched off last night and they got automated messages
> >> > indicating that their phones were not registered.
> >> >
> >> > We need to be honest and run this industry professionally! Have we
> >> > lost direction?
> >> >
> >> > Edith
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> > --
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> >
> > Mark Mwangi
> >
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> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
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> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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