[kictanet] A good piece by Dr. Bitange Ndemo

Mark Mwangi mwangy at gmail.com
Tue Nov 19 09:12:18 EAT 2013


I agree with Adam albeit partly. Running to make everything under the sun
is no a smart move. However building horizontal industries where products
from one industry feed another and by products are the base of another
shoulfd be encouraged. Building spare parts for local cars is an example.

A knowledge economy is a good foundation but we still need to build and
make stuff. e.g Swiss chocolate, german cars, American Missiles, Chinese
iPhones etc. Am yet to see a stable economy that doesn't manufacture and
export physical goods.


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:

> The first sentence does not lead to the second and third:
>
> "We cannot have high unemployment, and at the same time import clothes
> from Sri Lanka or mitumba, when we can grow cotton and make our clothes.
>  We must defy economic explanations on what works and what does not work.
>  If we deployed thousands of youth digitizing land records, we would reduce
> caseloads in courts, become more efficient, and create more wealth to grow
> our economy."
>
> Kenya should go towards counter-cyclical employment of youth doing
> productive infrastructure work: being teachers, building railroads,
> digitizing land records, etc...
>
> However, you can't forget Adam Smith who talked extensively of Comparative
> Advantage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage).  Sri
> Lanka (or really Bangladesh) has a far more economical solution for
> producing cotton clothing than Kenya has.  This mostly has to do with the
> port of Mombassa being a stranglehold and the fact that a 40M person
> economy (Kenya) doesn't have the same economy of scale as a billion person
> economy (a guess at the number of people a Bangladeshi factory can export
> to easily).
>
> Kenya is a small country and a small economy and if it wants to bring in
> more money and reduce unemployment, the solution is around creating an
> amazingly well-educated population and doing more knowledge work - not
> producing more clothing.
>
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> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>wrote:
>
>> Dr. Ndemo has struck a cord that has been played in this list
>> countless times before. I  remember him saying in another thread "you
>> cannot have unemployed youth yet we have countless garbage lining our
>> streets and estates!"
>>
>> His argument on us importing cloths yet we can do it here is basic
>> economic that any country can master. India went that way through the
>> leadership of Mahatma.
>>
>> But Dr. Ndemo, in the previous administration that you served so
>> ardently, the government shipped billions worth of capital on works
>> that could be done by Kenyans. I'm talking about the massive
>> infrastructure development that took place in the last 10years. That
>> capital could have done our unemployed generation justice if it was
>> utilized here home. I believe Kenyans can build decent roads, brides,
>> buildings and ports. What happened to national pride? It's the same
>> argument of importing cloths or planting cotton and producing our own
>> garments.
>>
>> We're still not out of the woods yet, remember the Korean firm
>> implementing the PKI?
>>
>> My cent-less
>>
>> On 18/11/2013, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > A good piece by Dr. Bitange Ndemo
>> >
>> >
>> > *We must be more pragmatic to resolve Kenya's high unemployment*
>> >
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/-/1959700/2077756/-/oodsogz/-/index.html
>> >
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