[kictanet] Why Dr Bitange Ndemo may have missed on the ICT docket

Thu Apr 25 20:21:05 EAT 2013

Bwana Mutoro

You are a great man. We accept your apology, after all we are all human and no one is infallible - The Bible and the Quran all talk about the same thing - Let those who have no sins/fault cast the first stone.

On the issue of the ICT Secretary, questioning an appointment doesn't mean one is against him. The very essence of this list is intellectual discourse and we should try hard (very hard) not to discourage people from speaking their minds.

I applaud you Sir.

Ali Hussein
CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd

+254 713 601113

"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb

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On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:59 PM, stephen Mutoro <smutoro at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks Eric, Dorcas, Paul and a few others:
> 
> With tremendous humility and respect I can muster, I must say that I welcome your (dis)encouraging criticism. When you criticize others, like I do at times, you must be ready for the same. But I would have responded, with evidence and I mean it, were it that my elder brother Dr Bitange Ndemo was the one asking for the same. I see the last time he tweeted was April 22, 2013. He hasn't been active here. I trust he is well. Unknown to many, especially those who purport to respond on his behalf, Dr Ndemo encourages criticism especially when facts are provided. Again, don't get it wrong, we could be "corporate enemies" but best of "personal friends". As the Ghanain proverb says - "In school, we learn the lessons before we take the exams; in life we learn the lessons after the exam". 
> 
> Finally, I plead with those of us who are still "uncomfortable" with Dr Fred Matiang'i, as Kenya's ICT Cabinet Secretary designate, to please be patient so we move on as one and united ICT fraternity. I hope he will accept to join this list. Good evening.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Stephen Mutoro
> www.cofek.co.ke 
> 
> 
> From: Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan at me.com>
> To: smutoro at yahoo.com 
> Cc: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> 
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why Dr Bitange Ndemo may have missed on the ICT	docket
> 
> +2 ( not for me and myself but for the 2 sentences.....:-)
> 
> Eric here
> 
> 
> On 25 Apr 2013, at 10:53, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> What about taking stock of what Dr. Ndemo did for the ICT industry? We should be thanking him in a big way.
>> 
>> I think Mutoro should stop the sideshow. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> @ Mutoro, I have read your or cofek 'analysis' of why Dr. Ndemo missed out on the ICT docket.  One reason you give is that of Kenya's participation to WICT which i quote:
>> "The diplomatic row and the embarrassment that PS caused to Kenya delegation during the WICT in Dubai 
>> has tarnished Kenya's name in the eyes of international community and particularly Africa. 
>> The PS came with members of civil society whom he had accredited to represent the Kenya 
>> Government through back door and completely ignored the advice from government representatives 
>> and started reading views prepared and presented to him by members of another delegation making 
>> Kenya appear like a colony of that state".
>> This is misleading and as one of those 'civil society' members that participated, I want to set the record straight.
>> 
>> 1. The accreditation was not through the back door as you purport. Please read Kenya's 2010 constitution article 10. You will see that participation of citizens is key in any policy making process whether local or international. 
>> 
>> 2. CCK convened a stakeholder's meeting on November 13, 2012 to discuss the ITRs. Several view points and recommendations emerged and were submitted to CCK (CCK had a deadline and our consolidated recommendations reached them on time). It was therefore expected that Kenya would have its own position.
>> 
>> 3. It was in the spirit of Kenya's Constitution that Kenya's delegation embraced stakeholders, and civil society was one of them.
>> 
>> 4. In Dubai, the ITU secretary General met with Civil Society representatives from different countries (Kenya was not the only country that had a multistakeholder delegation) and reported that he had written to governments encouraging them to include in their delegations stakeholders including civil society. How then is this backdoor accreditation when it is placed as a requirement in our supreme law, as well as recommended by the ITU?  Why do you imply that civil society members should not have been at WICT? 
>> 
>> 5. What diplomatic row are you talking about? And why are you including in your 'analysis' rumors? Did you take time to understand the sticking points in the negotiations and therefore understand what Kenya's position needed to be in WICT? Can you table evidence that the PS read views prepared by another delegation? For your information, the very same issues we raised on November 13, became the same issues of contention at WICT.
>> 
>> Kindly check your facts before making certain claims. 
>> 
>> Rgds
>> Grace
>> P.S. We must give credit where due. Dr. Ndemo has made immense contributions in the sector. Please do not be subjective about important issues like WICT just because you dont like him.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1529%3Awhy-ndemo-may-have-been-missed-on-the-ict-docket&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=60
>> 
>> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:35:46 -0700
>> From: smutoro at yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fred Matiangi, Cabinet Secretary for ICT
>> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
>> 
>> Dear Walubengo:
>> 
>> He is the one. Dr Matiang'i is a great man. He taught me West African Literature at the University of Nairobi! You may also be interested to see why your good friend Dr Ndemo will have to bid farewell to the ICT Ministry where he has literally made his second home for the last years. He has been anti-consumer and we wish him well - whether he is appointed as CS or a PS in any other Ministry.  http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1529%3Awhy-ndemo-may-have-been-missed-on-the-ict-docket&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=60 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Stephen Mutoro
>> www.cofek.co.ke 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>> To: smutoro at yahoo.com 
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fred Matiangi, Cabinet Secretary for ICT
>> 
>> It appears the above is our new Cabinet Sec. for ICT.  Anyone with some background, bio on him?  Google is returning this - but not sure if he is our guy.
>> 
>> http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm
>> 
>> walu.
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