[kictanet] Why Dr Bitange Ndemo may have missed on the ICT docket

Thu Apr 25 20:19:10 EAT 2013

Just confirmed in my dictionary that indeed slander and criticism have
different meanings, and are usually designed to have seperate outcomes.
On 25 Apr 2013 19:50, "stephen Mutoro" <smutoro at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks Eric, Dorcas, Paul and a few others:
>
> With tremendous humility and respect I can muster, I must say that I
> welcome your (dis)encouraging criticism. When you criticize others, like I
> do at times, you must be ready for the same. But I would have responded,
> with evidence and I mean it, were it that my elder brother Dr Bitange Ndemo
> was the one asking for the same. I see the last time he tweeted was April
> 22, 2013. He hasn't been active here. I trust he is well. Unknown to many,
> especially those who purport to respond on his behalf, Dr Ndemo encourages
> criticism especially when facts are provided. Again, don't get it wrong, we
> could be "corporate enemies" but best of "personal friends". As the Ghanain
> proverb says - "In school, we learn the lessons before we take the exams;
> in life we learn the lessons after the exam".
>
> Finally, I plead with those of us who are still "uncomfortable" with Dr
> Fred Matiang'i, as Kenya's ICT Cabinet Secretary designate, to please be
> patient so we move on as one and united ICT fraternity. I hope he will
> accept to join this list. Good evening.
>
> Kind regards,
> Stephen Mutoro
> www.cofek.co.ke
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan at me.com>
> *To:* smutoro at yahoo.com
> *Cc:* "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Why Dr Bitange Ndemo may have missed on the ICT
> docket
>
> +2 ( not for me and myself but for the 2 sentences.....:-)
>
> Eric here
>
>
> On 25 Apr 2013, at 10:53, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What about taking stock of what Dr. Ndemo did for the ICT industry? We
> should be thanking him in a big way.
>
> I think Mutoro should stop the sideshow.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> @ Mutoro, I have read your or cofek 'analysis' of why Dr. Ndemo missed out
> on the ICT docket.  One reason you give is that of Kenya's participation to
> WICT which i quote:
> *
>  "The diplomatic row and the embarrassment that PS caused to Kenya
> delegation during the WICT in Dubai
> has tarnished Kenya's name in the eyes of international community and
> particularly Africa.
> The PS came with members of civil society whom he had accredited to
> represent the Kenya
> Government through back door and completely ignored the advice from
> government representatives
> and started reading views prepared and presented to him by members of
> another delegation making
> Kenya appear like a colony of that state".
> *
> This is misleading and as one of those 'civil society' members that
> participated, I want to set the record straight.
>
> 1. The accreditation was not through the back door as you purport. Please
> read Kenya's 2010 constitution article 10. You will see that participation
> of citizens is key in any policy making process whether local or
> international.
>
> 2. CCK convened a stakeholder's meeting on November 13, 2012 to discuss
> the ITRs. Several view points and recommendations emerged and were
> submitted to CCK (CCK had a deadline and our consolidated recommendations
> reached them on time). It was therefore expected that Kenya would have its
> own position.
>
> 3. It was in the spirit of Kenya's Constitution that Kenya's delegation
> embraced stakeholders, and civil society was one of them.
>
> 4. In Dubai, the ITU secretary General met with Civil Society
> representatives from different countries (Kenya was not the only country
> that had a multistakeholder delegation) and reported that he had written to
> governments encouraging them to include in their delegations stakeholders
> including civil society. How then is this backdoor accreditation when it is
> placed as a requirement in our supreme law, as well as recommended by the
> ITU?  Why do you imply that civil society members should not have been at
> WICT?
>
> 5. What diplomatic row are you talking about? And why are you including in
> your 'analysis' rumors? Did you take time to understand the sticking points
> in the negotiations and therefore understand what Kenya's position needed
> to be in WICT? Can you table evidence that the PS read views prepared by
> another delegation? For your information, the very same issues we raised on
> November 13, became the same issues of contention at WICT.
>
> Kindly check your facts before making certain claims.
>
> Rgds
> Grace
> P.S. We must give credit where due. Dr. Ndemo has made immense
> contributions in the sector. Please do not be subjective about important
> issues like WICT just because you dont like him.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1529%3Awhy-ndemo-may-have-been-missed-on-the-ict-docket&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=60
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:35:46 -0700
> From: smutoro at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fred Matiangi, Cabinet Secretary for ICT
> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
>
> Dear Walubengo:
>
> He is the one. Dr Matiang'i is a great man. He taught me West African
> Literature at the University of Nairobi! You may also be interested to see
> why your good friend Dr Ndemo will have to bid farewell to the ICT Ministry
> where he has literally made his second home for the last years. He has been
> anti-consumer and we wish him well - whether he is appointed as CS or a PS
> in any other Ministry.
> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1529%3Awhy-ndemo-may-have-been-missed-on-the-ict-docket&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=60
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Stephen Mutoro
> www.cofek.co.ke
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> *To:* smutoro at yahoo.com
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:37 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fred Matiangi, Cabinet Secretary for ICT
>
> It appears the above is our new Cabinet Sec. for ICT.  Anyone with some
> background, bio on him?  Google is returning this - but not sure if he is
> our guy.
>
>
> http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm
>
> walu.
>
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