[kictanet] Internet connection

Thu Apr 25 09:27:24 EAT 2013

In addition to the disclaimer about "shared links/connections", they will
tell you that the advertised speed is only between you and them, not
onwards to the Internet. Personally, I would not mind this, as long as they
were willing to host the entire Internet on their local servers :)

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

> Baiju
>
> Most of us face the same issue. I don't believe Zuku is the only culprit.
> The entire industry seems to have 'conspired' around this. However if you
> read the fine print on the contract you will no doubt see the disclaimer
> about 'shared links'. I call it the 'Tyranny of Shared Connectivity'.
>
> This issue goes beyond consumer interest and touches on the whole regime
> of Internet Governance and the discussions around guarantees on Service
> Delivery and Quality of Service.
>
> May be this is a topic that the more technically savvy listers can explain
> to us.
>
> Barrack, may be this is an interesting topic for our forthcoming IGF?
>
> *Ali Hussein*
>
> *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
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> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Baiju Shah <baiju at tele2media.com> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> Apologies for my ignorance.
>>
>> I pay for a 8mb connection and this is the service I recorded last night
>> on my phone's ewifi connection
>>
>> Date ConnType Lat Lon Download Upload Latency ServerName InternalIp
>> ExternalIp 2013-04-24 22:09 Cell 1.000000 38.000000 953 414 132 Nairobi
>> 105.230.213.53 105.230.213.53 2013-04-24 22:09 Cell 1.000000 38.000000
>> 951 404 129 Nairobi 105.230.213.53 105.230.213.53 2013-04-24 22:08 Cell
>> 1.000000 38.000000 929 395 128 Nairobi 105.230.213.53 105.230.213.53
>> Please note the download speed is 0.9mb. Is there any legislation /
>> regulation to protect the consumer and ensure that the product delivered is
>> what it says on the tin? How can we make the ISP responsible for the
>> quality of their product ?
>>
>> To top all this Zuku charged me for installation and never completed the
>> install as their third party has not got enough cable, and promised this
>> five months ago, when we requested Zuku to complete the outstanding work at
>> their Diamond Plaza office they said they believe the job is complete....
>>
>> Please comment....
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Baiju Shah
>> Managing Partner|Telemedia Africa Ltd
>>
>> Suite 12|Chaka Court | Argwings Kodek Road,
>> P.O. Box 14556-00100, Nairobi, Kenya.
>> T: +254 737 751409 | M: +254 787332247
>> E: baiju at tele2media.com
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>>   1. Re: County Governors and the Need to Embrace ICTs (robert yawe)
>>    2. Re: [ISOC_KE] Kenya to host second Edition of the Africa    IGF
>>      (meshack emakunat)
>>   3. What awaits the new ICT Cabinet Secretary (Grace Githaiga)
>>   4. Re: [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?
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>> http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm
>>      (Mark Mwangi)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:31:19 +0100 (BST)
>> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] County Governors and the Need to Embrace ICTs
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>> Edith,
>>
>> KICTANET are unable to use technology beyond posting which means we do
>> not have the moral right to request others to do so.
>>
>> I missed a meeting at KEPSA to discuss the KIF's strategy document
>> because the invite was not sent as a "meeting request" for which my
>> confirmation would have automatically updated the calendar on my computer
>> and my phone with an automated reminder.
>>
>> So, before we start asking others to embrace technology let us be seen to
>> be doing it first.
>>
>> Regards
>> ?
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
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>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca>
>> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2013, 15:13
>> Subject: [kictanet] County Governors and the Need to Embrace ICTs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Listers,
>> ?
>> Today, Governor of Nairobi County, Kidero (or is he H.E?.how do you
>> address them?) posted on his twitter account a note inviting Kenyans to the
>> first public participation meeting to plan for the County.
>> ?
>> As most of us are at work during the day (or tarmacking) , how are we
>> expected to meaningful participate? I dare suggest that County Governors
>> embrace ICTs and have ?live? online coverage of the event in a way that
>> those unable to attend can still directly contribute via whatever means
>> possible ? radio, sms, social media, digital hangout etc etc?
>> ?
>> Any thoughts on how this can be done to embrace EVERYONE based on
>> technologies and tools available in people?s hands (not forgetting the
>> digitally excluded).
>> ?
>> Ideas?
>> ?
>> Edith
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>> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:02:37 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: meshack emakunat <memakunat at yahoo.com>
>> To: ali at hussein.me.ke
>> Cc: skunkworks at lists.my.co.ke, kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke,
>>     isoc at orion.my.co.ke
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] Kenya to host second Edition of the
>>    Africa    IGF
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>> This great news
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>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 1:29 AM PDT Ali Hussein wrote:
>>
>> Great Barrack.
>>
>>
>> Good to see ISOC Kenya Chapter is active and doing great stuff!
>>
>>
>> Digital team! :)
>>
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>>
>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
>>
>> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
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>> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>
>> FYI
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Kenya to host the 2nd African Internet Governance Forum (AfIGF)
>>
>>
>> Dear Stakeholders,
>>
>>
>> Following a bid submitted by the Government of the Republic of Kenya
>>
>> through the Ministry of Information and Communication in February 2013 and
>>
>> confirmed in March, the AfIGF secretariat is pleased to announce that the
>>
>> 2nd African Internet Governance Forum will be held in Kenya from 11-13
>>
>> September 2013. The meeting will be hosted by the Government in
>>
>> cooperation with the Internet Society Kenya Chapter.
>>
>>
>> Kenya has hosted with great success the 5th Internet Governance Forum
>>
>> (IGF), which had the highest number of participants in the history of the
>>
>> IGF.
>>
>>
>> The AfIGF secretariat takes this opportunity to thank the Government and
>>
>> people of Kenya for agreeing to host, after Egypt, such an important
>>
>> African event.
>>
>>
>> You are all invited to take part in AfIGF3.
>>
>>
>> The AfIGF Secretariat
>>
>>
>> Le Kenya abritera le 2eme Forum africain sur la Gouvernance de
>>
>> l?Internet (AfIGF)
>>
>>
>> Chers Acteurs,
>>
>>
>> Suite ? l?offre faite par le Gouvernement de la R?publique du Kenya ?
>>
>> travers le Minist?re de l?Information et de la Communication en
>>
>> f?vrier 2013 et confirm?e en mars, le secr?tariat AfIGF a le plaisir
>>
>> d?annoncer la tenue du 2eme Forum africain sur la Gouvernance de
>>
>> l?Internet au Kenya du 11 au 13 septembre  2013. La r?union sera
>>
>> organis?e par le Gouvernement en coop?ration avec le Chapitre Internet
>>
>> Society du Kenya.
>>
>>
>> Le Kenya a abrit? avec un succ?s retentissant le 5eme Forum sur la
>>
>> Gouvernance de l?Internet (IGF), qui avait battu le record du plus grand
>>
>> nombre de participants de toutes les r?unions IGF qui ont ?t? tenues ?
>>
>> ce jour.
>>
>>
>> Le secr?tariat d?AfIGF saisit cette opportunit? pour rendre hommage au
>>
>> Gouvernement et ? la population du Kenya d?avoir accept? d?abriter,
>>
>> apr?s l?Egypte, un ?v?nement africain d?une si grande importance.
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>> Vous ?tes tous invit?s a participer ? AfIGF3.
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>> Le secr?tariat d?AfIGF
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>> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:08:28 +0000
>> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
>> To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>,
>>     "isoc at orion.my.co.ke" <isoc at orion.my.co.ke>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: [kictanet] What awaits the new ICT Cabinet Secretary
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>> When the President announced Dr Fred Matiang'i as the Cabinet Secretary
>> nominee Information, Communication and Technology, the ICT fraternity got
>> busy on Google.The question was, who is this guy?
>>
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/What-awaits-the-new-ICT-Cabinet-Secretary/-/440808/1756938/-/eh72vp/-/index.html
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>> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:50:50 +0300
>> From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com>
>> To: Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>,
>>     "isoc at orion.my.co.ke" <isoc at orion.my.co.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?
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>> http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm
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>> I am not for the idea of closing up industries to purely insiders. The
>> lethargy and infighting and loss of focus can only be detrimental. For
>> instance the holder of the highest office of the land is the commandeer in
>> chief of the armed forces. I have not heard or seen him serve for the
>> military before yet he is expected to lead us into battle. Ofcourse he
>> will
>> need able and competent bureacrats within the rank and file to advise him.
>>
>> I expect the same goes for the cabinet secretaries. Being a trained doctor
>> does not necessarily mean you are best placed to lead a ministry. Let us
>> not forget that Cabinet secretaries are negotiators and implementors o
>> broader overarching goals.
>>
>> lawyers have however managed to clam their profession shut to outsiders.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Bwana Ndemo is also an industrial economist ? he may be chosen as PS for
>>
>> another Ministry ? entrepreneurship?, industrialization? etc. Bwana Ndemo
>>
>> is on the PS list in Nation today, ready for Interview as PS ? he can tell
>>
>> us his choice ? as I guess you have to indicate your choice. Or is it a
>>
>> pool, from where they will chose?****
>>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> As for the New Cabinet Secretary, I don?t envy him as the ICT industry
>>
>> stakeholders are known not to keep quiet?.so he has a tough job ahead. He
>>
>> will need a strong PS and great technical people below him to deliver in
>>
>> this dynamic industry where the stakeholders will speak loudly, if unhappy
>>
>> ? esp. via KICTANET list.****
>>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> I wish him well.****
>>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> Edith****
>>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
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>> idrc.ca at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Pamela
>>
>> *Sent:* April 24, 2013 12:46 PM
>>
>> *To:* Edith Adera
>>
>>
>> *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; isoc at orion.my.co.ke
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?
>>
>>
>> http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm
>>
>> ****
>>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> @Gilda, not entirely accurate, Dr. Ndemo?s Masters degree is in*
>> MIS*(management information systems) from the University of St.Thomas,
>>
>> Minnesota. ****
>>
>>
>> Regards****
>>
>>
>> Pamela****
>>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> *From:* kictanet
>>
>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+pamela=cardiacimplants.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
>>
>> * On Behalf Of *Gilda Odera
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:33 AM
>>
>> *To:* pamela at cardiacimplants.com
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; isoc at orion.my.co.ke
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?
>>
>>
>> http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm
>>
>> ****
>>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> @Barrack I think you go it wrong. If my knowledge serves me well, neither
>>
>> a demo nor Kagwe were ICT experts when appointed as PS. But they had the
>>
>> intellectual capacity and drive to run with it. They consulted widely and
>>
>> went out of their way to hear and learn. That is what is required, not
>>
>> necessarily an ICT expert.
>>
>>
>> Regards,****
>>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> Gilda Odera****
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Solomon Mb?r? Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
>>
>> wrote:****
>>
>>
>>  Barrack, et al,****
>>
>>
>> While there is a legit cause for aligning the ministries to the people who
>>
>> are running them, it is important that we don't think inside the box -
>> that
>>
>> is the ICT Secretary should be a ICT expert. It can be anybody who the
>>
>> constitution so points out.****
>>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> On 23 April 2013 19:41, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:**
>>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Listers,****
>>
>>
>> Just googled the nominee for the ICT Secretaries post and i am a bit lost
>>
>> as to whether he is the right person for the job. Two things come into my
>>
>> mind: ****
>>
>>
>> 1. With regional balancing Dr. Ndemo will definately not make it as
>>
>> principal Secretary even if he merits. For such a crucial ministry i
>>
>> thought we needed some continuity otherwise we might slow down or lose out
>>
>> on the gains we have achieved in the last couple of years, i wonder what
>>
>> listers think. As a public we also have an obligation to vet the nominees.
>>
>> ****
>>
>>
>> 2. The nominee appears to be a governance expert as opposed to an
>>
>> Information and Communications Technology expert, will he inspire the ICT
>>
>> community to move to the next frontiers the way Kagwe, Poghisio and Ndemo
>>
>> did? This are some of the concerns i have whilst respecting the Presidents
>>
>> Choice, what do others think? Let us collect our views as an ICT
>> community,
>>
>> i am willing to consolidate them and then we submit to the necessary
>>
>> Parliamentary Commitee.****
>>
>>
>> Best Regards****
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>> +254721325277****
>>
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