<div dir="ltr"><div>In addition to the disclaimer about "shared links/connections", they will tell you that the advertised speed is only between you and them, not onwards to the Internet. Personally, I would not mind this, as long as they were willing to host the entire Internet on their local servers :)<br>
</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Baiju<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">
Most of us face the same issue. I don't believe Zuku is the only culprit. The entire industry seems to have 'conspired' around this. However if you read the fine print on the contract you will no doubt see the disclaimer about 'shared links'. I call it the 'Tyranny of Shared Connectivity'.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">This issue goes beyond consumer interest and touches on the whole regime of Internet Governance and the discussions around guarantees on Service Delivery and Quality of Service.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">May be this is a topic that the more technically savvy listers can explain to us. <br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">
Barrack, may be this is an interesting topic for our forthcoming IGF?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"">Ali
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Baiju Shah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:baiju@tele2media.com" target="_blank">baiju@tele2media.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div>Listers,</div><div><br></div><div>Apologies for my ignorance.</div><div><br></div><div>I pay for a 8mb connection and this is the service I recorded last night on my phone's ewifi connection </div>
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<font face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:17px;white-space:normal">105.230.213.53</span></font></td></tr></tbody></table><br><div>Please note the download speed is 0.9mb. Is there any legislation / regulation to protect the consumer and ensure that the product delivered is what it says on the tin? How can we make the ISP responsible for the quality of their product ?</div>
<div><br></div><div>To top all this Zuku charged me for installation and never completed the install as their third party has not got enough cable, and promised this five months ago, when we requested Zuku to complete the outstanding work at their Diamond Plaza office they said they believe the job is complete....</div>
<div><br></div><div>Please comment....</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Baiju Shah</div><div>Managing Partner|Telemedia Africa Ltd</div><div><br></div><div>
Suite 12|Chaka Court | Argwings Kodek Road,</div>
<div>P.O. Box 14556-00100, Nairobi, Kenya.</div><div>T: +254 737 751409 | M: +254 787332247</div><div>E: <a href="mailto:baiju@tele2media.com" target="_blank">baiju@tele2media.com</a></div></div><div><br>On 24 Apr 2013, at 21:55, <a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:<br>
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<span>than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..."</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Today's Topics:</span><br><span></span><br><span> 1. Re: County Governors and the Need to Embrace ICTs (robert yawe)</span><br>
<span> 2. Re: [ISOC_KE] Kenya to host second Edition of the Africa IGF</span><br><span> (meshack emakunat)</span><br><span> 3. What awaits the new ICT Cabinet Secretary (Grace Githaiga)</span><br><span> 4. Re: [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?</span><br>
<span> <a href="http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm</a></span><br><span> (Mark Mwangi)</span><br>
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<span>From: robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span><br><span>To: Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca" target="_blank">eadera@idrc.ca</a>></span><br>
<span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] County Governors and the Need to Embrace ICTs</span><br>
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<span></span><br><span>Edith,</span><br><span></span><br><span>KICTANET are unable to use technology beyond posting which means we do not have the moral right to request others to do so.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I missed a meeting at KEPSA to discuss the KIF's strategy document because the invite was not sent as a "meeting request" for which my confirmation would have automatically updated the calendar on my computer and my phone with an automated reminder.</span><br>
<span></span><br><span>So, before we start asking others to embrace technology let us be seen to be doing it first.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Regards</span><br><span>?</span><br><span>Robert Yawe</span><br><span>KAY System Technologies Ltd</span><br>
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<span>________________________________</span><br><span> From: Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca" target="_blank">eadera@idrc.ca</a>></span><br><span>To: <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a> </span><br>
<span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> </span><br><span>Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2013, 15:13</span><br><span>Subject: [kictanet] County Governors and the Need to Embrace ICTs</span><br>
<span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Listers,</span><br><span>?</span><br><span>Today, Governor of Nairobi County, Kidero (or is he H.E?.how do you address them?) posted on his twitter account a note inviting Kenyans to the first public participation meeting to plan for the County.</span><br>
<span>?</span><br><span>As most of us are at work during the day (or tarmacking) , how are we expected to meaningful participate? I dare suggest that County Governors embrace ICTs and have ?live? online coverage of the event in a way that those unable to attend can still directly contribute via whatever means possible ? radio, sms, social media, digital hangout etc etc?</span><br>
<span>?</span><br><span>Any thoughts on how this can be done to embrace EVERYONE based on technologies and tools available in people?s hands (not forgetting the digitally excluded).</span><br><span>?</span><br><span>Ideas?</span><br>
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<span> <a href="mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke" target="_blank">isoc@orion.my.co.ke</a></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] Kenya to host second Edition of the</span><br><span> Africa IGF</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br>
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<span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>This great news </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span>On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 1:29 AM PDT Ali Hussein wrote:</span><br>
<span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Great Barrack. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Good to see ISOC Kenya Chapter is active and doing great stuff! </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Digital team! :)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ali Hussein</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>+254 713 601113</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPad</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>FYI</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kenya to host the 2nd African Internet Governance Forum (AfIGF)</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dear Stakeholders,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Following a bid submitted by the Government of the Republic of Kenya</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>through the Ministry of Information and Communication in February 2013 and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>confirmed in March, the AfIGF secretariat is pleased to announce that the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2nd African Internet Governance Forum will be held in Kenya from 11-13</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>September 2013. The meeting will be hosted by the Government in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>cooperation with the Internet Society Kenya Chapter.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>Kenya has hosted with great success the 5th Internet Governance Forum</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(IGF), which had the highest number of participants in the history of the</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>IGF.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><span>The AfIGF secretariat takes this opportunity to thank the Government and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>people of Kenya for agreeing to host, after Egypt, such an important</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>African event.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>You are all invited to take part in AfIGF3.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The AfIGF Secretariat</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><span>Le Kenya abritera le 2eme Forum africain sur la Gouvernance de</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>l?Internet (AfIGF)</span><br></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Chers Acteurs,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suite ? l?offre faite par le Gouvernement de la R?publique du Kenya ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>travers le Minist?re de l?Information et de la Communication en</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>f?vrier 2013 et confirm?e en mars, le secr?tariat AfIGF a le plaisir</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>d?annoncer la tenue du 2eme Forum africain sur la Gouvernance de</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>l?Internet au Kenya du 11 au 13 septembre 2013. La r?union sera</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>organis?e par le Gouvernement en coop?ration avec le Chapitre Internet</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Society du Kenya.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Le Kenya a abrit? avec un succ?s retentissant le 5eme Forum sur la</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gouvernance de l?Internet (IGF), qui avait battu le record du plus grand</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>nombre de participants de toutes les r?unions IGF qui ont ?t? tenues ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>ce jour.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Le secr?tariat d?AfIGF saisit cette opportunit? pour rendre hommage au</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gouvernement et ? la population du Kenya d?avoir accept? d?abriter,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>apr?s l?Egypte, un ?v?nement africain d?une si grande importance.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><span>Vous ?tes tous invit?s a participer ? AfIGF3.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
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<span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 3</span><br><span>Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:08:28 +0000</span><br><span>From: Grace Githaiga <<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>></span><br>
<span>To: "<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>,</span><br>
<span> "<a href="mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke" target="_blank">isoc@orion.my.co.ke</a>" <<a href="mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke" target="_blank">isoc@orion.my.co.ke</a>></span><br><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span><br>
<span>Subject: [kictanet] What awaits the new ICT Cabinet Secretary</span><br><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BAY151-W10D0EA21B9BB3B7D49C8E6B4B50@phx.gbl" target="_blank">BAY151-W10D0EA21B9BB3B7D49C8E6B4B50@phx.gbl</a>></span><br>
<span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</span><br><span></span><br><span>When the President announced Dr Fred Matiang'i as the Cabinet Secretary nominee Information, Communication and Technology, the ICT fraternity got busy on Google.The question was, who is this guy?</span><br>
<span> <a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/What-awaits-the-new-ICT-Cabinet-Secretary/-/440808/1756938/-/eh72vp/-/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/What-awaits-the-new-ICT-Cabinet-Secretary/-/440808/1756938/-/eh72vp/-/index.html</a> </span><br>
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<span>To: Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca" target="_blank">eadera@idrc.ca</a>></span><br><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>,</span><br>
<span> "<a href="mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke" target="_blank">isoc@orion.my.co.ke</a>" <<a href="mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke" target="_blank">isoc@orion.my.co.ke</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?</span><br>
<span> <a href="http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm</a></span><br><span> </span><br>
<span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAH5fjcigahCS+h_q1opZj_wZqQ2AzyKrQs3Qn3c32+c9CZmj7Q@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">CAH5fjcigahCS+h_q1opZj_wZqQ2AzyKrQs3Qn3c32+c9CZmj7Q@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>I am not for the idea of closing up industries to purely insiders. The</span><br><span>lethargy and infighting and loss of focus can only be detrimental. For</span><br>
<span>instance the holder of the highest office of the land is the commandeer in</span><br><span>chief of the armed forces. I have not heard or seen him serve for the</span><br><span>military before yet he is expected to lead us into battle. Ofcourse he will</span><br>
<span>need able and competent bureacrats within the rank and file to advise him.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I expect the same goes for the cabinet secretaries. Being a trained doctor</span><br><span>does not necessarily mean you are best placed to lead a ministry. Let us</span><br>
<span>not forget that Cabinet secretaries are negotiators and implementors o</span><br><span>broader overarching goals.</span><br><span></span><br><span>lawyers have however managed to clam their profession shut to outsiders.</span><br>
<span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca" target="_blank">eadera@idrc.ca</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span> Bwana Ndemo is also an industrial economist ? he may be chosen as PS for</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>another Ministry ? entrepreneurship?, industrialization? etc. Bwana Ndemo</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is on the PS list in Nation today, ready for Interview as PS ? he can tell</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>us his choice ? as I guess you have to indicate your choice. Or is it a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>pool, from where they will chose?****</span><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>** **</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As for the New Cabinet Secretary, I don?t envy him as the ICT industry</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>stakeholders are known not to keep quiet?.so he has a tough job ahead. He</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>will need a strong PS and great technical people below him to deliver in</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>this dynamic industry where the stakeholders will speak loudly, if unhappy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>? esp. via KICTANET list.****</span><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>** **</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I wish him well.****</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>** **</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Edith****</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>** **</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*From:* kictanet [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+eadera</a>=</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] *On Behalf Of *Pamela</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Sent:* April 24, 2013 12:46 PM</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*To:* Edith Adera</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; <a href="mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke" target="_blank">isoc@orion.my.co.ke</a></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm</a></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> ** **</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Gilda, not entirely accurate, Dr. Ndemo?s Masters degree is in* MIS*(management information systems) from the University of St.Thomas,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span>Minnesota. ****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Regards****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span>Pamela****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>** **</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span>*From:* kictanet</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bpamela" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+pamela</a>=<a href="mailto:cardiacimplants.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">cardiacimplants.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* On Behalf Of *Gilda Odera</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:33 AM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*To:* <a href="mailto:pamela@cardiacimplants.com" target="_blank">pamela@cardiacimplants.com</a></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; <a href="mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke" target="_blank">isoc@orion.my.co.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm</a></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>** **</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Barrack I think you go it wrong. If my knowledge serves me well, neither</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a demo nor Kagwe were ICT experts when appointed as PS. But they had the</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>intellectual capacity and drive to run with it. They consulted widely and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>went out of their way to hear and learn. That is what is required, not</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>necessarily an ICT expert.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Regards,****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>** **</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gilda Odera****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Apr 23, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Solomon Mb?r? Kamau <<a href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com" target="_blank">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Barrack, et al,****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>While there is a legit cause for aligning the ministries to the people who</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>are running them, it is important that we don't think inside the box - that</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is the ICT Secretary should be a ICT expert. It can be anybody who the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>constitution so points out.****</span><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>** **</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 23 April 2013 19:41, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:**</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>**</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Listers,****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Just googled the nominee for the ICT Secretaries post and i am a bit lost</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>as to whether he is the right person for the job. Two things come into my</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>mind: ****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. With regional balancing Dr. Ndemo will definately not make it as</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>principal Secretary even if he merits. For such a crucial ministry i</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>thought we needed some continuity otherwise we might slow down or lose out</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>on the gains we have achieved in the last couple of years, i wonder what</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>listers think. As a public we also have an obligation to vet the nominees.</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. The nominee appears to be a governance expert as opposed to an</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Information and Communications Technology expert, will he inspire the ICT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>community to move to the next frontiers the way Kagwe, Poghisio and Ndemo</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>did? This are some of the concerns i have whilst respecting the Presidents</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Choice, what do others think? Let us collect our views as an ICT community,</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>i am willing to consolidate them and then we submit to the necessary</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Parliamentary Commitee.****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Best Regards****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span>Barrack O. Otieno****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>+254721325277****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><span>+254-20-2498789</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Skype: barrack.otieno****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
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