[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 71, Issue 65

Wed Apr 10 20:11:41 EAT 2013

Ethiopian kids who had never even seen a word learnt completely on their own with zero instruction how to read, write and hack android when left with a tablet for 5 months.

http://www.dvice.com/archives/2012/10/ethiopian-kids.php

Regards, 
Harry Karanja

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 10, 2013, at 7:24 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> James,
> 
> You answered your own question when you mentioned that your son shows you things about your iPad that even you did not know about all of which I expect he learned on his own and not in class.
> 
> Mark Zurkerberg is a self trained developer and Bill Gates only had basic introduction to computers which is most likely because he was introduced to computers later than Mark.
> 
> I suggest you find results of the "hole in the wall" experiment that was done by the founder n NIIT in India to get an appreciation of a childs ability to learn on its own and how they actually change a society.  The hand washing campaign was successful because it was targeted at children in primary schools and went home and enforced the discipline in their parents and older siblings.
> 
> So this what I think we need is a two pronged approach where you have the computers introduced to both the standard 1 and form 1 students, @Walu, @Ndemo and @Hare how do we present our case to the powers that be and soon?
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> Robert Yawe
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> From: James Kimani <mwaura.kimani at gmail.com>
> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk 
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> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 16:37
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 71, Issue 65
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> I highly think giving laptops to class 1 kids is not bad at all.My son uses my ipad very well and in most cases he teaches me new things.He is 4 yrs but he started using it when 2 yrs 9 months.My main problem is "who will teach the kids from village schools since even majority of teachers including their principals are computer illiterate?
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> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:30:48 +0300
> From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com>
> To: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ethiopia and Tunisia reaping the fruit of a
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> I have said this before and i fully agree with you Brian....
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Ethiopia and Tunisia deliver high speed data over wireline while here in
> > Kenya we have allowed France Telecom who have management of Telkom Kenya to
> > basically neglect and "throw away" our copper plant - and yet it could be
> > the basis for providing affordable high speed access to hundreds of
> > thousands. The new government *must* review this counterproductive
> > "strategic investment" from France. Preferably show them the door and let
> > us rebuild our national carrier. Full story here http://ictafrica.info/
> > FullNews.php?id=8231<http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fictafrica.info%2FFullNews.php%3Fid%3D8231&h=6AQG9pG3RAQFMErU7Uu3mvEUPpn6e6H9D64HDcC36A89x5Q&s=1>
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> > Best regards,
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> > Brian
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> From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
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> A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for
> Kids.
> 
> Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open
> source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes
> pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo?s
> interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing
> large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have
> no trouble selecting the activity they want.
> My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades
> because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths
> skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good.
> For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2
> years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
> 
> Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any
> software that we do not need at all.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > +1 Harry!
> >
> > As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya
> > is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting
> > it to the best level.
> >
> > There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this
> > move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this
> > space.
> >
> > We should begin now.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare <
> > harry at africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Walu et al,
> >>
> >> I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below.
> >> You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level
> >> policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to
> >> craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
> >>
> >> I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT
> >> Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver
> >> this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for
> >> Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class
> >> one?
> >>
> >> Kindest Regards
> >>
> >> Harry Hare
> >>
> >> Director  |  African eDevelopment Resource Centre
> >> PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya
> >> Tel +254 20 4041646  |  Cel +254 725 650044
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo at yahoo.com>
> >> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo at yahoo.com>
> >> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
> >> To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry at africanedevelopment.org>
> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
> >>
> >> 50 + 1 @ walu
> >>
> >> Owino Jakakaeta
> >> Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
> >>
> >>
> >>   ------------------------------
> >> *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> >> *To:* "mpodhiambo at yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo at yahoo.com>
> >> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
> >>
> >>
> >> @Yawe,
> >>
> >> I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new
> >> Principals.  Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new
> >> Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news.  Just drop the
> >> laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
> >>
> >> 1. Curriculum.
> >> Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games,
> >> watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters
> >> or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw
> >> gadgets at them.?
> >>
> >> 2. IT Teachers.
> >> Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon
> >> can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT
> >> program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
> >>
> >> 3. Examinations.
> >> It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed
> >> teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is
> >> examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your
> >> hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say
> >> Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
> >>
> >> 4. Security/Theft.
> >> If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about
> >> laptops hanging either in staffrooms or  on standard 1 pupils?  What about
> >> a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for
> >> other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful
> >> Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops
> >> and quite a number sold them off at market price.
> >>
> >> 5. Maintenance\Disposal program.
> >> Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we
> >> need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across
> >> rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and
> >> so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
> >>
> >> But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget
> >> Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked
> >> PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great
> >> idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little
> >> returns to the taxpayer.
> >>
> >> walu.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the
> >> issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and
> >> quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or
> >> would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate?
> >> However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be
> >> up to speed on devices.
> >> >
> >> >Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become
> >> relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a
> >> forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
> >> >
> >> >Regards
> >> >
> >> >PS.  A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Robert Yawe
> >> >KAY System Technologies Ltd
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> >> >Kenya
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