<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Ethiopian kids who had never even seen a word learnt completely on their own with zero instruction how to read, write and hack android when left with a tablet for 5 months.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "><a href="http://www.dvice.com/archives/2012/10/ethiopian-kids.php">http://www.dvice.com/archives/2012/10/ethiopian-kids.php</a></span><br><br>Regards, <div>Harry Karanja<div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPad</div></div></div></div><div><br>On Apr 10, 2013, at 7:24 PM, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">James,<br><br>You answered your own question when you mentioned that your son shows you things about your iPad that even you did not know about all of which I expect he learned on his own and not in class.<br><br>Mark Zurkerberg is a self trained developer and Bill Gates only had basic introduction to computers which is most likely because he was introduced to computers later than Mark.<br><br>I suggest you find results of the "hole in the wall" experiment that was done by the founder n NIIT in India to get an appreciation of a childs ability to learn on its own and how they actually change a society. The hand washing campaign was successful because it was targeted at children in primary schools and went home and enforced the discipline in their parents and older siblings.<br><br>So this what I think we need is a two
pronged approach where you have the computers introduced to both the standard 1 and form 1 students, @Walu, @Ndemo and @Hare how do we present our case to the powers that be and soon?<br><br>Regards<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> James Kimani <<a href="mailto:mwaura.kimani@gmail.com">mwaura.kimani@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 16:37<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 71, Issue 65<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv2099573061"><div dir="ltr">I highly think giving laptops to class 1 kids is not bad at all.My son uses my ipad very well and in most cases he teaches me new things.He is 4 yrs but he started using it when 2 yrs 9 months.My main problem is "who will teach the kids from village schools since even majority of teachers including their principals are computer illiterate?<br>
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:30:48 +0300<br>
From: Dorcas Muthoni <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com">dmuthoni@gmail.com</a>><br>
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I have said this before and i fully agree with you Brian....<br>
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> Ethiopia and Tunisia deliver high speed data over wireline while here in<br>
> Kenya we have allowed France Telecom who have management of Telkom Kenya to<br>
> basically neglect and "throw away" our copper plant - and yet it could be<br>
> the basis for providing affordable high speed access to hundreds of<br>
> thousands. The new government *must* review this counterproductive<br>
> "strategic investment" from France. Preferably show them the door and let<br>
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A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for<br>
Kids.<br>
<br>
Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open<br>
source Ubuntu Linux <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.ubuntu.com/">http://www.ubuntu.com/</a>> desktop, Qimo comes<br>
pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo?s<br>
interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing<br>
large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have<br>
no trouble selecting the activity they want.<br>
My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades<br>
because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths<br>
skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good.<br>
For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2<br>
years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.<br>
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Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any<br>
software that we do not need at all.<br>
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com">dmuthoni@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> +1 Harry!<br>
><br>
> As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here:<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate</a> , Kenya<br>
> is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting<br>
> it to the best level.<br>
><br>
> There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy</a>, we should support this<br>
> move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this<br>
> space.<br>
><br>
> We should begin now.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare <<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:harry@africanedevelopment.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:harry@africanedevelopment.org">harry@africanedevelopment.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hey Walu et al,<br>
>><br>
>> I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below.<br>
>> You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level<br>
>> policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to<br>
>> craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.<br>
>><br>
>> I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT<br>
>> Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver<br>
>> this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for<br>
>> Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class<br>
>> one?<br>
>><br>
>> Kindest Regards<br>
>><br>
>> Harry Hare<br>
>><br>
>> Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre<br>
>> PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya<br>
>> Tel <a href="" rel="nofollow">+254 20 4041646</a> | Cel <a href="" rel="nofollow">+254 725 650044</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: Owino Jakakaeta <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mpodhiambo@yahoo.com">mpodhiambo@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mpodhiambo@yahoo.com">mpodhiambo@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT)<br>
>> To: Cio_Magazine Hare <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:harry@africanedevelopment.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:harry@africanedevelopment.org">harry@africanedevelopment.org</a>><br>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants<br>
>><br>
>> 50 + 1 @ walu<br>
>><br>
>> Owino Jakakaeta<br>
>> Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>> *From:* Walubengo J <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> *To:* "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mpodhiambo@yahoo.com">mpodhiambo@yahoo.com</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mpodhiambo@yahoo.com">mpodhiambo@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> *Cc:* <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM<br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> @Yawe,<br>
>><br>
>> I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new<br>
>> Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new<br>
>> Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the<br>
>> laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.<br>
>><br>
>> 1. Curriculum.<br>
>> Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games,<br>
>> watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters<br>
>> or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw<br>
>> gadgets at them.?<br>
>><br>
>> 2. IT Teachers.<br>
>> Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon<br>
>> can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT<br>
>> program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.<br>
>><br>
>> 3. Examinations.<br>
>> It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed<br>
>> teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is<br>
>> examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your<br>
>> hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say<br>
>> Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?<br>
>><br>
>> 4. Security/Theft.<br>
>> If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about<br>
>> laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about<br>
>> a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for<br>
>> other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful<br>
>> Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops<br>
>> and quite a number sold them off at market price.<br>
>><br>
>> 5. Maintenance\Disposal program.<br>
>> Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we<br>
>> need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across<br>
>> rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and<br>
>> so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.<br>
>><br>
>> But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget<br>
>> Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked<br>
>> PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great<br>
>> idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little<br>
>> returns to the taxpayer.<br>
>><br>
>> walu.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> >Hi,<br>
>> ><br>
>> >I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the<br>
>> issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and<br>
>> quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or<br>
>> would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate?<br>
>> However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be<br>
>> up to speed on devices.<br>
>> ><br>
>> >Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become<br>
>> relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a<br>
>> forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?<br>
>> ><br>
>> >Regards<br>
>> ><br>
>> >PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> >Robert Yawe<br>
>> >KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
>> >Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
>> >P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
>> >Kenya<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> >Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br>
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